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UNCHAINED: The SEC Ends Its Ethereum 2.0 Investigation, but Staking Isn't in the Clear

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🗓️ 26 June 2024

⏱️ 70 minutes

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The SEC won’t pursue enforcement against Ethereum 2.0, but why? How much of a role did politics play? And where does that leave staking and court cases involving companies such as Consensys and Coinbase?  Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Pods, Fountain, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Last week, Consensys revealed that the SEC had concluded an investigation into Ethereum 2.0, referring to when Ethereum transitioned from a proof-of-work consensus mechanism to a proof-of-stake one. In this episode, Laura Brookover, senior counsel & head of litigation and investigations at Consensys, and Sam Enzer, partner at Cahill Gordon & Reindel, explore the implications of this decision on Ether’s status as a commodity versus a security, and why the SEC dropped the pursuit, including whether the shifting political winds played a role. For instance, how much of the decision was influenced by the ETH ETF approvals, Democrats crossing party lines to vote for FIT21 and the repeal of SAB 121, and/or SEC crypto enforcement chief David Hirsch’s resignation?  In this discussion, they also explained why the closure doesn’t necessarily mean that staking, or restaking, is safe from the SEC. Plus, what’s the impact of this closure on the other big crypto cases, such as Coinbase, Kraken, Uniswap, and Ripple?  Show highlights: How Consensys managed to get the SEC to reveal that it had concluded its investigation into Ethereum 2.0, and the significance of that move The SEC's possible reasoning behind investigating Ethereum after it had switched to proof of stake How uncommon is it for the SEC to send a letter concluding an investigation like the one into Ethereum Whether recent events around crypto as an election issue, the ETH ETF approvals, votes for FIT21 and the repeal of SAB 121, and David Hirsch’s resignation, might be connected to the decision to close this investigation Whether the Biden administration has shifted its stance on crypto and whether Gensler should remain as chair How the SEC might still go after staking Whether restaking, such as pioneered by EigenLayer, is safe from regulatory actions Why the SEC might be pursuing different judgments in various jurisdictions for MetaMask and Coinbase Wallet What crucial evidence from the closed Ethereum 2.0 investigation could strengthen Coinbase's defense in its ongoing lawsuit Why the SEC's aggressive stance on various crypto enforcement actions seems to remain unchanged despite closing the Ethereum 2.0 investigation Why Sam and Laura believe Solana should not be considered a security, despite the SEC naming it as such in various crypto cases How the SEC’s argument about an “ecosystem” is nonsensical, according to Laura Brookover What the implications of the closed investigation are for the cases of Kraken and Ripple What Sam and Laura B. are watching out for in terms of regulation and ongoing legal cases Visit our website for breaking news, analysis, op-eds, articles to learn about crypto, and much more: unchainedcrypto.com Thank you to our sponsors! Polkadot Guests: Laura Brookover, Senior Counsel & Head of Litigation and Investigations at Consensys Previous appearance on Unchained: Consensys’s Lawsuit Against The SEC: Will It End Gensler's ‘Unlawful Power Grab’? Sam Enzer, Partner at Cahill Gordon & Reindel Previous appearances on Unchained: The Real Reason Why the SEC Might Be Going After Ethereum How 'a Criminal Choice' Got Sam Bankman-Fried a 25-Year Prison Sentence Why the SEC’s Case Against Coinbase Is So Significant for Crypto Why SBF’s Testimony So Far Has Likely Already Doomed Him Another Bad Week for Sam Bankman-Fried in His Criminal Trial Why These Lawyers Say It’s Over for SBF-But His Only Hail Mary Is to Testify SBF Trial: How Sam Bankman-Fried’s Lawyers Might Try and Win His Case SBF’s Lawyers Could Be Annoying the Judge How Might That Impact the Trial? Links Ethereum ‘Survives the SEC’ Consensys announcement blog  Consensys’ thread Laura Brookover’s tweet on the investigation being closed. Investigation Termination Letter Fortune: Ethereum wins a major battle, but its war with the SEC is far from over  CNBC: Consensys’ head of litigation provides new details after SEC closes probe into crypto firm Consensys lawsuit against the SEC Original Press Release Consensys V. Gensler Et. Al Complaint Consensys’s March 29 comment letter to SEC on proof-of-stake Ether ETFs CoinDesk: Ether ETFs Should Be Fully Approved by September, Says SEC Chair Gensler Latest on other SEC enforcement actions ccn.com: SEC vs Kraken: Judge “Inclined to Deny” Motion to Dismiss Case Uniswap Response to Wells Notice  CoinDesk: Coinbase Loses Most of Motion to Dismiss SEC Lawsuit, (Mar 27) Unchained Podcast is Produced by Laura Shin Media, LLC.  Distributed by CoinDesk. Senior Producer is Michele Musso and Executive Producer is Jared Schwartz.  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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