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🗓️ 8 September 2023
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Earlier this week, Ethereum co-founder Vitalik Buterin and four co-authors published a paper describing a smart contract protocol called privacy pools that would enable crypto users to associate their funds with those being used for legitimate purposes versus those being used in criminal activity such as hacks or money laundering. The protocol addresses one of the main shortcomings of coin mixer Tornado Cash, which has been sanctioned by the U.S. government.
Chainalysis chief scientist Jacob Illum, one of those co-authors, discusses the impetus for the paper, the technology behind privacy pools and how they would work in practice, who would provide some of the necessary organization to operate the pools, and some of the early criticisms of the paper.
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Jacob Illum, chief scientist at Chainalysis
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Unchained: Tornado Cash Cofounder Arrested, Another Sanctioned by U.S. Government
CoinDesk: Crypto-Mixing Service Tornado Cash Blacklisted by US Treasury
Blockchain Privacy and Regulatory Compliance: Towards a Practical Equilibrium
Matt Corallo’s tweet
Crypto lawyer Preston Byrne’s tweet
Previous coverage of Unchained on Tornado Cash:
The Chopping Block: 'Code Is Law' Is 'Obviously Not How Anything Works Ever'
The Chopping Block: Why DeFi May Be Over-Complying With Tornado Cash Sanctions
Preston Van Loon on Ethereum’s Merge and His Lawsuit Against TreasuryGiven the Sanctions on Tornado Cash, Is Ethereum Censorship Resistant?
The Chopping Block: Did OFAC Overstep by Sanctioning Tornado Cash?
Tornado Cash Sanctioned. Did the Government Overstep Its Bounds?
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0:16.8 | My opinion is that everybody should have a right to use the blockchain in the way that they want. |
0:21.3 | And if somebody wants to participate and get privacy where they don't mind providing some kind of association set with their withdrawals because it enables them to spend their coins maybe more freely, I think that's going to be something that's going to lead to greater adoption of blockchain. |
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