This is Ovious and Jillio.

Let's podcast alongside Joe Jillio.

I'm Joe Ovios, inside Eifford Studios in downtown,

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them right now. You need some IT help. You're wondering why something's not working with your network.

You call them. They're there. It's not an AI chatbot. And more importantly, they're not

hungover. Joe, it's Wednesday. And I thought you would still be struggling with hangovers.

I was wrong. So salute to you. What I did not realize was that North Carolina would still be dealing with a hangover

on Tuesday night going to Miami, never leading in this game and coming out with, I would say,

a fairly embarrassing loss on the road after a very, very big win over Duke on Saturday.

Well, I think Miami is in that bucket with NC State in Louisville and SMU in Virginia.

Who am I missing here?

Clemson, right?

They're tournament teams.

You made a face when I said embarrassing.

Here's why I say it's embarrassing.

Okay.

Miami's ACC wins so far this year have been against teams under 500 in the conference.

Their wins are against, and I'm not making this up in order the last place teams in the ACC right now.

Pitt, Wake, Georgia Tech, Notre Dame, Q, Stanford, and B.C., which they beat barely over the weekend.

Two of their three conference losses, because they're what, eight and three now, nine and three?

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