This is Ovious and Jillio.

Let's podcast alongside Joe Jiliio.

I'm Joe Ovius inside Eifford Studios in downtown Raleigh. Thanks to Empire Properties

and thanks to Copiers Plus. Check them out online at Copiers.com. Print management, document

management, most importantly, local, so local that this Thursday will be crashing their holiday party.

I'm excited about this. We'll be doing the podcast from Fayetteville, from the home base at Copiers Plus. Copiers dash plus.com. Big night tonight, Joe. We got a lot,

again, another day where we got a lot to get into. We're going to check in with David Hale,

ACC Network, ESPN, about the college football playoff and what's really bugging ACC football.

Walker Mail, WFNZ out in Charlotte. If it's an up and down kind of season for the Carolina Panthers, I would imagine that the sports talk radio callers at WFNZ are also going through it. I'm going to try to achieve Zen balance with Walker about Bryce Young. Okay? Because I think there's too high, too low, is he the go to Zina?

We have to find some Zen balance and just accept of who he is.

So we're going to work through that with Walker a little bit later on.

All that's coming up.

But tonight, tonight's a big night.

Individually for Duke and North Carolina and also for the ACC.

It's the third ACC SEC SEC SEC challenge.

The SEC riding high off of what, 14 bids last year?

14 bids last year.

14 and they went 14 and 2 in the ACC SEC challenge.

Yeah.

And the ACC is trying to get itself back into that, what they are, a top college basketball

conference.

We got the net rankings that have come out.

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