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Search tifant.org to donate Hello and welcome to another unbelievable classic replay. I'm Ruth Jackson and this week we're delving back into the archives. Let's jump in on today's discussion.

Well today we're asking about the future of humankind. Should we be more optimistic about it?

John Hans is a scientist and academic who received wide praise for his last book, Cosmosapians, published in 2016,

on the origin of evolution of humans in the universe from start to finish, and his brand new book, The Future of

Humankind, looks forward to what may lay in store for Homo sapiens, examining whether we're

likely to go extinct, for instance, or whether we may be set for a further stage of evolution,

a new consciousness as we continue in development. Well, in conversation with John today is a friend

of the show, Perry Marshall,

whose own interests in a new understanding of the development of life have been expressed in his

books, Evolution 2.0, and his long-running $10 million prize for anyone who thinks they can

crack the code for the origin of life. And we've had Perry on discussing these kinds of issues

with all kinds of different people in the past.

Today, though, we'll be asking where the future of humanity as a species lies,

how Perry is a Christian sees God's activity in life's development in the cosmos,

how John sees things as well. We'll let John explain where he lands on the God question.

I'm sure that will come up as we

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