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The Rich Roll Podcast

Ultra Phenom Harvey Lewis On Finding Your ‘Why’, Nirvana Moments & Winning 300+ Mile Races

The Rich Roll Podcast

Rich Roll

Health & Fitness, Education, Self-improvement, Society & Culture

4.812.9K Ratings

🗓️ 31 January 2022

⏱️ 144 minutes

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Summary

What’s stopping you from living the life of your dreams? For many, it’s finances. Family obligations. Demanding careers. You get the picture. But today’s guest truly believes you can have it all. Meet Harvey Lewis. For more than 25 years, this Cincinnati-based high school teacher & plant-based running phenomenon has been competing in ultramarathons with relentless consistency, racking up 23 wins across 76 races (and counting). A 5-time member of the USA National 24-hour Team, it’s a journey that has taken him to 101 countries across seven continents. Along the way, he’s toed the line at most of the world’s most prestigious races, including ten Badwater 135 appearances, winning what many consider the globe’s most challenging foot race on two occasions. In addition to an impressive slew of victories, Harvey is also known for plying his talents to celebrate civil rights history. In 2008, he celebrated Gandhi by retracing his famous 240-mile Salt March—and followed it up in 2009 by running from Selma to Montgomery in honor of MLK. Ever the teacher. Now 45, you’d suspect Harvey would be slowing down. Instead, he’s found an entirely new gear, collecting breakthrough performances that include not only a second Badwater victory but an absolutely breathtaking win at the 2021 Big Dog’s Backyard Ultra. For the uninitiated, this is a last-person standing format race that entails running a 4-mile loop every hour on the hour until no one’s left. Harvey clocked an astounding, world record-setting 354 miles over an 85 hour period. 354 miles. On essentially no sleep. Today we cover it all. We discuss the hows and whys behind Harvey’s training and racing. His commitment to human-powered commuting. The daily run streak that remains unbroken since 2019. And the role his plant-based diet plays in all of it. Of course, we review his storied accomplishments—from the dirty details behind his backyard ultra breakthrough to becoming the fastest to run from Badwater Basin (the lowest point in North America) to the actual summit of Mt. Whitney (the highest point in the contiguous U.S.). We also talk about his FKT attempt on the Appalachian Trail, how it brought him closer to his father, who crewed the affair, and the documentary Like Harvey Like Son that tells the tale. In addition, we reconcile Harvey’s life as an elite ultramarathoner with the practicalities of his full-time occupation as a high school teacher—and how the two passions inform each other. But more than anything, this conversation is about the power of showing up with intention. Making room for the magic that comes with the rigorous, consistent, and patient pursuit of the thing you love. The importance of incremental improvement. And why the ability to push beyond the limits of what you perceive possible rests not in physical talents but instead in training your mindset. To read more, click here. You can also watch it all go down on YouTube. And as always, the podcast streams wild and free on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. Harvey is a beacon of infectious exuberance. He’s bursting with positivity and joy. He’s the teacher we all wish we had. And an example to us all. Peace + Plants, Rich

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0:00.0

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0:05.1

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0:06.1

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0:13.9

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0:19.2

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0:23.5

Do it now.

0:24.5

Okay, let's do the show.

0:30.2

You know, you go through these lows and highs, but going into 300, it just felt like we're

0:35.9

invincible.

0:36.9

Like just feeling like fired up and like, let's just go.

0:40.3

So it was wild to hit that mark and then feel all kinds of new energy.

0:47.1

That was what was so special about it, because you get beyond 300 miles and then you realize

0:51.9

wow, like you have more force than you ever had even in the first day.

0:55.2

You're like, where does it come from?

0:57.4

So I mean, so much is the mindset to get out there when it's cold and rainy and 11 p.m.

1:04.0

You know, like what's driving you?

1:06.6

So then it gets us back to the question of why.

1:09.2

And that's the other major thing.

1:10.6

And like to be honest with you, whenever I'm doing a race that I really care about, I

1:15.2

actually write down my why statement.

1:17.3

And I write down a bunch of stuff under why.

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