Ukrainian Lesson from Marie Yovanovich (w/ Marie Yovanovich)
Skullduggery
Michael Isikoff, Daniel Klaidman, Victoria Bassetti
4 • 2K Ratings
🗓️ 18 March 2022
⏱️ 51 minutes
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Summary
Marie Yovanovitch, former US Ambassador to Ukraine, testified before congress back in November of 2019 about the notorious phone call during which then President Trump trashed her to the new President of Ukraine, Volodymyr Zelensky. He commented that she would, in Trump's words be "going through some things." It was the moment that the world first heard from Yovanovich, a veteran US Diplomat who had devoted her career to serving the former Soviet Republics, and in the process becoming one the country's leading experts on Ukraine only to be dumped as ambassador because she was not perceived as promoting the corrupt interests of the American President and his cronies. She's now written a book that imparts what she learned about Ukraine and about Vladimir Putin's Russia. Lessons that are all the more important in the wake of Russia's brutal invasion. As Ukraine remains under siege and millions of its citizens flee for safety, we'll talk to Yovanovich about what those lessons were and what Americans should know about them.
GUESTS:
- Marie Yovanovitch, Fmr. US Ambassador to Ukraine
HOSTS:
- Michael Isikoff (@Isikoff), Chief Investigative Correspondent, Yahoo News
- Daniel Klaidman (@dklaidman), Editor in Chief, Yahoo News
- Victoria Bassetti (@VBass), fellow, Brennan Center for Justice (contributing co-host)
RESOURCES:
- Yovanovitch's reaction to Trump's Helsinki Press conference - Here.
- Putin's dictatorship will end in disaster, recent piece from Yahoo News UK - Here.
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| 0:00.0 | Were you aware that President Trump had specifically made reference to you in that call? |
| 0:07.0 | No. |
| 0:09.0 | What was your reaction to learning that? |
| 0:12.3 | I was shocked, absolutely shocked, and devastated, frankly. |
| 0:17.7 | What do you mean by devastated? |
| 0:21.3 | I was shocked and devastated that I would feature in a phone call between two heads of state |
| 0:33.3 | in such a manner where President Trump said that I was bad news to another world leader |
| 0:39.6 | and that I would be going through some things. |
| 0:41.9 | So I was... |
| 0:44.6 | It was a terrible moment. |
| 0:47.7 | That was Marie Ivanovich, the former US ambassador to Ukraine, testifying before Congress in |
| 0:52.9 | November 2019 about the notorious phone call during which then President Trump trashed |
| 0:59.5 | her to the new president of Ukraine, Vladimir Zelensky, and commented that she would, in |
| 1:05.7 | Trump's words, be, quote, going through some things. |
| 1:09.3 | It was the moment that the world first heard from Ivanovich, a veteran US diplomat who |
| 1:14.0 | had devoted her career to serving the former Soviet republics, and in the process becoming |
| 1:18.9 | one of the country's leading experts on Ukraine, only to be dumped as ambassador because |
| 1:23.8 | she was not perceived as promoting the corrupt interests of the American president and his |
| 1:28.2 | cronies. |
| 1:29.2 | She's now written a book, Lessons from the Edge, that imparts what she learned about |
| 1:32.7 | Ukraine and about Vladimir Putin's Russia, lessons that are all more important in the wake |
| 1:37.6 | of Russia's brutal invasion. |
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