UKRAINE: WARRING ANOTHER YEAR. ANATOL LIEVEN, QUINCY
The John Batchelor Show
John Batchelor
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🗓️ 13 June 2025
⏱️ 14 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | This is CBS Eye on the World. |
| 0:09.2 | Here's John Batchelor. |
| 0:12.4 | Dateline Berlin. |
| 0:14.8 | German defense minister Boris Pistorius arrived in Keefe in these last hours to discuss further weapons, aid for Ukraine |
| 0:23.8 | as efforts to end the three-year conflict, writes Reuters, with Russia facing headwinds |
| 0:30.4 | and the grim fact that AP is reporting Russia just passed one million casualties in the Ukraine |
| 0:36.3 | conflict. |
| 0:45.0 | Russia and Ukraine ads, Reuters, met for peace talks earlier this month in a renewed push. |
| 0:48.1 | However, the results of that seem unclear. |
| 0:53.6 | I welcome Anatol even to help us a little bit about clarity about the Istanbul talks. |
| 0:58.7 | However, I begin with Bistorias because there's a new government in the Bundestag. |
| 1:06.5 | The question is, is this profoundly different or incrementally different or politically different than the Olof Schultz government, |
| 1:12.6 | given that the social democrats are participating in this government? It's a coalition of the CDU and the social democrats. And I told a very good evening to Germany is the engine that NATO |
| 1:18.7 | needs and that Boris Bistorius remaining defense minister, though he's the other parties, the |
| 1:26.2 | Social Democratic Party, he was the |
| 1:28.2 | defense minister before, is understood in Germany to be a hawk. |
| 1:32.4 | Could we say that the new German coalition is more hawkish than before, much more hawkish? |
| 1:39.2 | What is the change that you see between Berlin and Berlin in the handing of the chancery to Friedrich and Maritz. |
| 1:48.6 | Good evening to you. |
| 1:50.2 | Hello, John. |
| 1:50.9 | I mean, I wouldn't say that it's much more hawkish. |
| 1:55.2 | I mean, I think what we've seen in the, oh my God, more than three years now since the beginning |
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