Ukraine two years on – Inside Ukraine’s defence.

This Is Not A Drill with Gavin Esler

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News, Society & Culture, Politics

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🗓️ 6 March 2024

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Russia’s war on Ukraine two years on. This time: How is Ukraine’s defence of its territory holding up under Putin’s onslaught? How do Ukrainians see the Trump Right’s obstruction of $60bn of aid to Kyiv? Is the loss of Avdiivka to Russia really what it seems? And how could the War end? Ukrainian journalist and Chatham House fellow Olga Tokariuk tells Oz Katerji how the war is going… and why Ukrainians have reason to be optimistic about the future. • “It is clear that if Russia is allowed to win in Ukraine, Putin will not stop there… It would doom Europe to decades of war.” • “The resolve of Ukrainians has not weakened… But we don’t see the West’s words matched by deeds.” • “Avdiivka is not such a huge victory for Russia… The price that Russia has paid is huge.” Support This Is Not A Drill on Patreon to get early episodes, merchandise and more. Written and presented by Oz Katerji. Produced by Robin Leeburn. Original theme music by Paul Hartnoll – https://www.orbitalofficial.com. Executive Producer Martin Bojtos. Group Editor Andrew Harrison. This Is Not A Drill is a Podmasters production Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:29.0	C EE. C EE. K. slash claims. The Do not ask Ukraine when the war will end.
0:47.0	Ask yourself why is Putin still able to continue it.
1:00.0	Just over two years ago, the world watched on in horror as troops and military vehicles
1:05.4	crossed into Ukraine in a mass invasion by Russian armed forces. But for
1:10.8	Ukrainians and those with slightly memories, this of course was not the start of the war.
1:16.0	Ukraine has been fighting Russian forces on its land for 10 years now, with no end to the conflict in sight. I'm Oz Kataji and this is not a drill. Oh, There have been many tales told of Ukrainian heroism and bravery in the face of the Russian
1:58.4	attack. Not least those about President Volodtame Zrensky.
2:03.4	But how is the country and its political apparatus holding up two years on from the full-scale
2:09.1	invasion of February 2022?
2:12.1	In this second episode of a two-part special on the Russo-Ukranian War, I spoke to Ukrainian journalist
2:19.0	Ojatakariak who has been telling the world about the realities of the war since it began.
2:24.4	Olha is currently in the UK at Chatham House as an Academy Fellow in their Ukraine forum.
2:30.0	And I began our conversation by asking about the political stability in her home country,
2:36.0	where Zelensky's decision to replace his top general has come under much scrutiny.
2:45.0	Hello, Olha, welcome to the show. Hello, thank you for having me.
2:47.0	So we're at the two-year mark since the Russian full-scale invasion of Ukraine.
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