#Ukraine: The leaks and the stalemate. Katrina vanden Heuvel, Nation Magazine.
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#Ukraine: The leaks and the stalemate. Katrina vanden Heuvel, Nation Magazine.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/leaked-documents-show-us-spying-russia-war-ukraine-rcna78876
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| 0:00.0 | This is CBS Eye on the World. |
| 0:08.4 | Here's John Batchler. |
| 0:11.1 | Documents, leaks, the New York Times headline. |
| 0:14.9 | What two leaked US intelligence reports say? |
| 0:18.5 | Subhead, many questions remain about the classified documents that have been dribbling |
| 0:22.2 | onto the web. |
| 0:23.8 | And perhaps continuing, I welcome my colleague, Katrina Vandenhovel, the publishing director |
| 0:29.5 | and publisher of the Nation magazine, also a Washington Post columnist responding to |
| 0:37.4 | these dribbling at New York Times word, dribbling onto the web, revelations of most recent |
| 0:43.8 | contest in Ukraine. |
| 0:46.2 | Katrina, it's both flabbergasting and fascinating to peek into documents that are as fresh as |
| 0:53.2 | the beginning of March 2023. |
| 0:56.2 | What was your first thought when you heard this news? |
| 0:58.8 | It didn't even take a train. |
| 1:00.6 | Thank you, John. |
| 1:01.6 | I thought of the history of leaks going back as we were talking about earlier, Pentagon |
| 1:06.4 | papers, but also Edward Snowden's leaks and to some extent, Julian Assange's leaks, |
| 1:12.6 | Wiki leaks. |
| 1:13.6 | But is this a leak or a hack? |
| 1:14.8 | We still don't know. |
| 1:15.8 | I think it's more looks more like a hack. |
| 1:17.6 | I'm a leak information, disinformation, Russian coup, US ploy. |
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