This is CBS I on the World with John Bachelor.

Here's John Bachelor.

Welcome Colonel Jeff McCauzy,

United States Army Retired Artiller

to the men, CBS News, visiting Professor Dickinson College, CEO

Diamond Six Leadership and Strategy, to take us to the battlefield in in and around Ukraine,

the Kursk Salient opened these last weeks by Ukrainian forces

towards the oblast of Kursk and the city of Kursk, a storied name in the Soviet Union and in the Russian Federation.

However, I learned from the professor because Jeff has learned at West Point and taught at West Point

and thinks very keenly about the lessons of

Closovitz taught at West Point and learned at West Point. I did not have that

education so I'm catching up as best I can. Jeff, the three R's of Closovitz, the thinker from the 19th

century that was so persuasive in the beginning of the 20th century, maybe still is.

reward, risk risk and resources, resources risk reward.

What does that speak to when we apply to the cursed salient?

Good evening to you.

Here in you, John, clearly this whole idea of resource risk and reward the

Closwe have talks about summarized if you will as we say the strategic hopes and

perhaps strategic fears for both the Russians as well as the Ukrainians.

The Ukrainians to use them as an illustration to start with

obviously are devoting significant amount of scarce resources

in the conduct of this ongoing offensive in Kurtz, particularly in the area of air defense,

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