🇺🇦 Ukraine’s Courage Stuns the World
This Is Not A Drill with Gavin Esler
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🗓️ 3 March 2022
⏱️ 35 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | I'm Arthur Snell. A major war is taking place on the European continent with Russia's invasion of Ukraine. |
| 0:08.0 | We'll be releasing a series of special episodes to help you understand the background to this crisis as it unfolds. |
| 0:14.0 | This is Doomsday Watch. |
| 0:23.0 | In late January, we brought you an emergency episode on the evolving crisis between Russia and Ukraine. |
| 0:30.0 | There was uncertainty about whether Vladimir Putin's Russia could really be crazy enough to invade a country the size of France with an experienced military. |
| 0:39.0 | One month on, that debate is over. |
| 0:46.0 | We wanted to get back in touch with Romeo Cockriatsky, host of the Ukraine without the hype podcast. |
| 0:53.0 | When we last spoke to Romeo, he was in his hometown of Kiev. He's now with his family in Western Ukraine, one of hundreds of thousands displaced by the conflict. |
| 1:03.0 | We'll also hear from British-based Ukrainian Artyom Lis, whose native city of Kharkiv is under Russian bombardment as we record this. |
| 1:13.0 | Okay. We're joined from Ukraine by Romeo Cockriatsky. |
| 1:21.0 | Good morning, Arthur, thanks for having me again. |
| 1:24.0 | Romeo, the last time we spoke, you were in Kiev. We were talking about whether or not Russia might be stupid enough to invade your country. |
| 1:32.0 | They've now done that. Can you talk us through what's happened to you in that period of the last two weeks? |
| 1:40.0 | Sure. Well, if you can recall from our previous conversations, Arthur, I'm not going to say I told you so, but this was definitely something I saw coming. |
| 1:53.0 | And the invasion was less of a surprise to me than perhaps two others. |
| 2:00.0 | So I was able to send my wife to my hometown of Vignitsa. It's a city about 300 kilometers southwest of Kiev about a week before the actual full-scale invasion commenced. |
| 2:13.0 | And I myself started moving to Vignitsa about two days after zero day. |
| 2:20.0 | Once it was clear that the invading Russian forces may try to swing around and head through the suburb in Kiev that I lived. |
| 2:30.0 | Normally, it's about a three and a half hour drive. In this case, it took me about 12 hours and three forms of transport. |
| 2:39.0 | But eventually, I was able to make it here. And it's about as safe as you can get in the country at the moment. |
| 2:45.0 | It's good to hear that you're in what is a relatively safe place. |
| 2:50.0 | Tell us about what you understand to be the situation now in Kiev. So we're talking on the morning of March 1st. |
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