This is a CBS I in the world. I'm John Bachelor Ukraine conflict.

Both presidential candidates speaking of Ukraine in these last days and through the campaign.

Question of politics is second to the war fighting ongoing right now.

Bill Rajo, the Foundation for the Defense of Democracy, joins me as my

colleague and co-host. He is he keeps the Long War Journal and in

there Long War Journal right now you will find an article about Chasev Yar, which with a photograph that is appalling.

It's a former village, city, small town.

It is now ruined in the way that CGI, for Hollywood would ruin in a movie

about the end of the world after the Martians had moved through and destroyed all active resistance. It is uninhabitable and looks like

at the no-go zone around Chernobyl. We welcome John Hardy of the

Foundation for the Defense of democracies,

filing in Long War Journal and elsewhere about the situation immediately at Chasse of Yarr,

and especially about the change of a commander of the 98 Guards Airborne Division.

Guards Airborne is one way to indicate elite.

However, the war has gone on for more than two and a half years, so the word elite seems inappropriate.

John, a very good evening to you.

Chase of Yarr is no more.

That is a ruin of what used to be tall buildings, residential tall buildings,

houses, housing, there's no human being living in there safely.

Why has Tussov Yar been reduced to

rubble? What is the Russian plan? What is the Ukrainian plan to fight over

Chasse of Yar? Good evening to you, John.

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