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I'm John Batchel with my colleagues, Bill Rajio, my co-host of the FDD.

He keeps the Long War Journal.

And John Hardy, who reports the Long War Journal, for the foundation for the defense of democracy.

What we have, John, is that Mr. Whitkoff was in Moscow in these last days as a representative of the President of the United States,

and there was a photograph of Mr. Whitkoff and Vladimir Putin shaking hands.

The comment about the conversation turned on the word productive, according to Kirill Dimitriov,

the central banker who was in charge of the sovereign wealth fund and was in Washington

the previous week to speak to the President of the United States.

At the very least, you could say that envoys of both men are speaking to both men.

No table in Istanbul or in Riyadh run by State Department of Foreign Ministry officials to go through a

filter to back to the principles. The principles are talking. We're also told that the word

ceasefire has been used, but also the word partition. This would be Keith Kellogg, who is an

official sent by the U.S. to deal with the

Ukrainian crisis. What is your measure of the Whitkoff in Moscow, Dmitrieff in Washington,

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