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crane conflict. What is to be done? The war grinds on in a small version of Verdun, a war

of attrition and artillery with escalating weapon systems and threats. However, what's ahead

of this is the possibility of negotiation at some point. All wars and either with victory

or a negotiated stand-down ceasefire, armistice, there are many names for it. However, I welcome

Ivana Stradner of the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies, writing recently in the

dispatch about what to watch for with Russian negotiators when they enter into the lengthy

conversation likely supervised by the UN, there are other possibilities, such as Minsk

1 and 2 was supervised by European states, but in any event what to watch for, what we

learned from 2015 and 2016 and the Kremlin's way of negotiating. We begin with the four

negotiating points that Ivana and her colleague identified and what is to be done when Russia

makes promises. Ivana, a very good day to thank you. The four points begin with reclaim

all the land, including Crimea. What do you anticipate the Russian response will be? Good

evening to you. Good evening. Thank you very much for inviting me to your show and to

begin with, I am very much against negotiating with Putin at this stage. Everyone inside

Russia keeps saying that Russia is ready to negotiate as a matter of fact, Putin offered

on Christmas to Ukraine to stop ceasefire for a few days and that really just tells you

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