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UKRAINE: NO END IN SIGHT, ANATOL LIEVEN

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John Batchelor

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🗓️ 20 June 2025

⏱️ 12 minutes

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UKRAINE: NO END IN SIGHT, ANATOL LIEVEN
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0:00.0

This is CBS Eye on the World. Here's John Batchelor.

0:10.4

Conflict in Eurasia across the vastness of the world island. I welcome Anatole Levin of the Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft, who is the head of the Eurasia project.

0:21.3

He's traveling.

0:22.1

He's in Europe and France.

0:24.0

But to comment on all of Eurasia is necessary now because we have multiple motives, multiple

0:29.6

war aims, multiple combatants, some several times a combatant.

0:35.3

However, there is important documents to start with, and one of them is in the

0:40.6

United States Senate, where I'm told there are 82 signatories to a move that would put a 500

0:48.0

percent tariff on anyone doing business with Russia, the aggressor in Ukraine. Mr. Trump is said, has asked the Senate to

0:58.2

delay moving forward on that legislation because he looks to settle the matter of Ukraine

1:05.2

without that scale of trade conflict. However, Mr. Zelensky is said to have attended the G7 meeting in

1:14.9

these last days in the Canadian Rockies, looking to meet with Mr. Trump and other decision makers

1:20.3

in the world's most developed economy. There were a lot of people invited also. Japan was there,

1:26.0

South Korea was there, Even Mexico was there.

1:29.7

However, that did not happen because Mr. Trump left early because of the crisis in the Middle East.

1:35.9

Anatole, that's enough complication. I want to concentrate on that 500%. It looks to be very important

1:41.5

to Keefe right now. Is it determinative or is it just more escalation in frustration?

1:47.8

Good evening, too.

1:49.6

Hello, John.

1:51.2

Well, the thing is, you know,

1:53.7

the given that the war in the Middle East is now driving up the price of oil

1:59.3

and there is a possibility that the US will come in,

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