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I'm John Batch with my colleague, Colonel Jeff McCawson, and not his

disarmament retired, looking at NATO in the road ahead, not just 24, but for the balance

of this decade and more to come.

The contest with Russia and China its ally is not easily described.

We can't see in 1948 what the Cold War will look like.

We see now in the 21st century that the Cold War had limits, but it was impossible to

read them at the time.

So we turn to the limits of the present conflict in Ukraine.

Jeff, the recommendation here is that NATO needs to prepare for the day after the cessation

of shooting.

That doesn't mean the end of the war, witness Korea, for example.

One recommendation needs to be acted upon quickly.

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