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#Ukraine. Exhausted, stalemated, disheartened. Anatol Lieven, Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft

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John Batchelor

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🗓️ 3 November 2023

⏱️ 6 minutes

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#Ukraine. Exhausted, stalemated, disheartened. Anatol Lieven, Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/nov/02/gaza-israel-war-middle-east-united-states-russia-china-iran

1927 KYIV

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CBS Island World. I'm John Bachelor with Anato leaving the Quincy Institute for

0:39.2

Responsible State Craft. An interview and the economist I recommend to everyone. This is with the

0:44.8

commander-in-chief of Ukrainian forces Valerie Zalujny. He says, just like in the

0:51.0

first world war we've reached the level of technology that puts us into a stalemate.

0:55.5

The general concludes that it would take a massive technological leap to break the deadlock, he adds,

1:01.5

it will most likely be no deep and beautiful breakthrough the interview

1:05.8

is extensive it's candid it is comporting to what we understand to be the details, fog of war, there are numbers moved around in the

1:16.2

hundreds of thousands is safe to say of casualties on both sides.

1:21.1

And now the word stalemate. And I told you've identified this for a year and a half and the first war is the model

1:28.3

1916, 1917, the mutinies in the French army and in the exhaustion of the British army and

1:36.2

then the Americans entered and it changed the landscape but all these decades

1:41.5

later we have another frozen conflict.

1:45.0

This could be a way of saying that it's time to negotiate.

1:49.0

Is it heard that way in Kyif because Moscow keeps offering for conversation.

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