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The Socialist Program with Brian Becker

Ukraine: Background to a Proxy War with No End in Sight [Preview]

The Socialist Program with Brian Becker

The Socialist Program

Politics, News

4.7587 Ratings

🗓️ 23 August 2025

⏱️ 13 minutes

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Summary

Donald Trump met with Vladimir Putin on August 15th. 3 days later, with Ukrainian leader Volodymyr Zelenskyy, along with the leaders of the major NATO countries. Trump promised that his personal intervention would lead to a quick end to the war, but he has badly misjudged the situation. Brian Becker and Layan Fuleihan discuss the latest, and explain why the war in Ukraine is not ending, at least not anytime soon.


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0:00.0

Welcome to The Socialist Program.

0:04.0

This is John Prysner, a producer of this show.

0:07.0

This is a preview of a patrons-only episode.

0:10.0

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0:16.0

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0:22.4

keep this show on the air.

0:27.1

Today, we're talking about the Ukraine War. Why no ceasefire? Why is the war continuing?

0:34.3

And why Donald Trump has misjudged the conflict.

0:44.2

I'm Leanne Seema Fullahan here with Brian Becker, and this is in the news, a segment of the Socialist program, a patron's only episode.

0:48.2

We want to thank all of our patrons for keeping the show on the air.

0:51.7

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1:01.0

If you are not a patron, you can become one today at patreon.com forward slash the socialist program. We can't do the show without you. We can only do it with you.

1:06.0

Donald Trump met with Vladimir Putin on August 15th, and a mere three days later, he met with the

1:12.1

Ukrainian leader Vladimir Zelensky in the White House, but not just with the Ukrainian leader.

1:17.0

He also met with a coterie of leaders from the major NATO countries.

1:23.5

He promised them that his personal intervention would lead to a quick end to the war, but it seems that Trump has badly misjudged the situation.

1:32.7

Today, we'll talk about why the war in Ukraine is not ending, at least not anytime soon.

1:39.1

Right, Leanne. He had been telling everybody during the election campaign, if he was president in 2022,

1:46.1

there would have never been a Ukraine war. And once he became president again for a second term,

1:52.8

that he could end the war in a single day, right? He's repeated that like many, many times.

1:58.1

Well, he met with Putin, as you said, on August 15th. He then met

2:02.7

with Zelensky and all of Zelenskyy sponsors, the NATO countries. And frankly,

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