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#Ukraine: Astana POV: Twenty-First Century Great Game. Professor H.J. Mackinder, International Relations. #FriendsofHistoryDebatingSociety

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🗓️ 12 March 2023

⏱️ 12 minutes

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#Ukraine: Astana POV: Twenty-First Century Great Game. Professor H.J. Mackinder, International Relations. #FriendsofHistoryDebatingSociety

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0:00.0

This is the French Vista Debating Society.

0:02.1

I'm John Bats with Professor H. A. McHenner,

0:04.4

International Relations, who has a note about a capital that is not a world power,

0:09.1

not even a middle power, but its resource rich and it borders the former Soviet Union

0:14.5

now, the Russian Federation, called Kazakhstan.

0:17.9

It stretches from the Caspian Sea all the way to the gates of China, Xinjiang.

0:25.6

It is very small population with a large land mass.

0:29.9

The capital is now Nursalton, sometimes called Astana.

0:33.9

I visited in 2003 simultaneously with the Iraq invasion.

0:41.9

What I found was a country that was just shaking off the operatiques of the Soviet Union

0:48.4

and aware that its oil wealth along with its natural resources was going to make everybody

0:54.1

an authority rich.

0:56.2

All these years later, that's what's happened.

0:58.5

Professor, what is the point of view of Kazakhstan?

1:01.5

Well, this is a bit of an enigma.

1:04.6

However, I think it is fair to say that since 2019, when Nursalton, Nazarbayev, who the

1:15.8

capital is named after, resigned and Mr. Tukayev took over.

1:23.6

There has been some improvement.

1:25.6

Tukayev says that he's putting in a democratic constitution that already had the first-stage

1:31.4

elections.

1:33.4

The people who watch these things, such as Freedom House, say that it is still an authoritarian

1:39.8

country.

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