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Ladies and gentlemen, Chris Van Blee.

Thank you so much for invite us into your home.

Oh, thanks for coming.

This makes a lot easier.

But there's also no better way to have a conversation than this. Yeah. In person. This is always good. Yeah. I've always been that way, though. Like, even before all this, like, Zoom and I like, I'm like, I do a radio interviews and like, oh, you don't have to go in. You can just call in. I'm like, I'm here. Like, I'll come in.

Which I think works out better for everybody.

Because, I mean, you go in, especially if you've never worked with somebody. Yeah. Go in and you're going on a radio interview, right? Yeah. And you get in there and it's just cold from the first thing you do is you start talking to guy. Yeah. I mean, and I go over the day when people had no idea what UFC was.

Sure.

You have no chance to get any kind of rapport with them.

You have no... I mean, and I go over the day when people had no idea what UFC was.

Sure.

You have no chance to get any kind of rapport with them. You have no, they don't know anything about your sport. And you're like, and you're trying to have a conversation and make it interesting, right? Yeah. And promote something while you're in a short period of time. Yeah. So, you know, I always felt it was always better to get there early.

Talk to the guy, you know, when the guy's off from a, you have a conversation before you actually decide to be on the radio for three minutes and try to promote something. But I think that says a lot about you because there's a lot of people that would go, no, I want to put in like the least amount of effort possible. I'll just call in at 817. We'll make this thing happen. Well, yeah. But, I mean, I don't want to be overworked. But I also, I think product over laziness, I guess. I don't know that. I'd rather, I'd rather have a good, like, I want to get out of here on time. I can tell the guys are doing things.

I want to get out of time, but I want to make sure you got what you need. Yeah, right. I'd rather have a good product. Yeah. We're done than have me get out of here an hour early. Yeah. You know, so. When did you become Chuck? I mean, your name is Charles, but when did you become Chuck? Um, that's actually funny.

Um, I, no one

who ever asked that.

I actually didn't like the name Chuck. your name is Charles, but when did you become Chuck? That's actually funny.

I know who never asked that. I actually didn't like the name Chuck. I fought it for years. My family called me Charlie. Like I actually had in high school, I had buddies who called up. Hey, is Chuck there? And my, this is back? You know, we had this phone. Sure. So my grandma has the phone. Nope, no Chuck here. I'm like, I'm up.

I'm like, oh, is Charlie there? And she, oh, yeah, he's right here. Oh, wow. Yeah. Like, it's like, it was not allowed. But, you know, eventually I just got used to it. Now, now I tell me my name's Chuck. Does anyone call you Charlie now? My family still family still. My mom, my sister, my brother. Yeah. Um, and then some friends from, like I, I, it's, I've said this before in a couple of interviews a while ago and now it changed it a little bit, but I used to, if I heard someone yell Charlie when I walk through, because I walk it through a cry, I try not to not to look a lot if I'm trying to get somewhere fast and just to anyone else my name, I just keep going. You kind of stand out, yeah.

You have to kind of walk through because I walk it through a crowd. I try not to look a lot if I'm trying to get somewhere fast. I just, too many else my name.

I just keep going.

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