Yes, welcome back into UAP.

Stephen Deiner back with you here, as always, on the Unidentified Alien Podcast,

episode 138.

I knew I've been busy here lately, but no time for slowing down,

never slowed down here on UAP because there is just too much going on. And I'm happy today

to bring you my new interview with Nick Pope. He's back on the show. He's been on here a bunch of

times and I always appreciate that because that man is always in high demand, whether it's a conference,

an interview, a TV show, a live performance for ancient aliens, appreciate that because that man is always in high demand, whether it's a conference, an

interview, a TV show, a live performance for ancient aliens, whatever it might be.

Nick Pope is always in demand, and I'm always honored that he makes time to stop by here

on UAP to discuss a lot of the latest things going on.

And today was no different as he came on to discuss the latest Wall Street Journal article

and his response to it when the Daily Mail interviewed him about it. And now obviously,

you know, look, we've had a few days, maybe even a week or so to kind of let this Wall Street

article, Wall Street Journal article fester a little bit.

And it became really kind of like the topic of conversation. So really kind of picking up where I left

off on episode 133, where even I kind of went into it just for a few minutes after my interview

with Chris Ramsey and ended the show talking about this article. And I reached out to Nick and he's like, hey, you know, I'd love to talk to you about this because the Daily Mail just spoke to me about it. I said, great, cool, let's do it, good timing. And there was another piece in there, too, that he mentions that I thought was really thought provoking. And I got to tell you, on both of these subjects, initially I didn't really agree with him.

And see, and that's what I'm saying, right?

I don't always have to agree with the guest.

That's completely fine.

And that makes for interesting conversation.

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