Let's turn now to Republican Senator James Langford of Oklahoma. As a member of the Powerful Finance Committee,

he questioned President Trump's trade representative, James and Greer, this morning, about Trump's

controversial tariffs. Senator Langford's new book, Turnaround, America's Revival is out today,

and he joins me now. Senator, welcome back to the News Hour. Thanks for joining us.

Thank you. You bet. Good to be back with you again. I want to ask you about your wonderful new book,

about all the news around tariffs, but I want to begin where Lisa just left off when it comes to

this fact that Speaker Mike Johnson does not have the votes to pass that budget blueprint in the

House. What happens next?

Are you still confident that it'll get done before the recess? I'm hopeful it'll get done.

The budget blueprint is just that. There's very little detail on it. The way the House writes a

budget blueprint is it puts what's called a ceiling. Here's the top amount that we want to achieve.

The way the Senate writes a budget blueprint is a floor. We want the top amount that we want to achieve. The way the Senate

writes a budget blueprint is a floor. We want to do at least this, but we'll go much higher.

And I think some in the House are perceiving that the Senate bill is written the same as the

House bill. They're accomplishing the exact same thing. To say the truth, it feels a little bit

like we're arguing about where to be able to lean the ladder against the wall

to fix the leaky roof. The problem is not where to lean the ladder. The problem is the leaky

roof. This bill, the budget outline, is just that. It's just an outline. It doesn't do anything.

It just gets us started in the process. The next step deals with the tax policies, deals with how do we

reduce spending all those things. That's the one with the detail. And quite frankly, deals with how do we reduce spending all of those things.

That's the one with the detail. And quite frankly, I'm hopeful that we can get to the one that

really counts, not this one that's a sure process document. All right. I will continue to follow.

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