This is Democracy Now. Democritory Now.org, the War and Peace report.

I'm Amy Goodman with Nermine Sheikh.

We're joined now for part two of our conversation with Francesca Abenazi, the UN Special Rapporteur on the Occupied Palestinian Territory.

Her new landmark report titled From Economy of Occupation to Economy of Genocide, the Trump administration announced Wednesday

it's imposing sanctions on her, alleging she's targeting Americans and Israelis for prosecution

by the International Criminal Court.

She's joining us now from Slovenia's capital, Ljubljana, where she just held a news conference.

Thank you so much for staying with us, Nermaine.

So, Francesca, if you could talk about the companies that you name, there are dozens of them,

of course, you can't list all of them,

who you say in the report are profiting from Israel's war on Gaza or the expansion of illegal settlements in the West Bank.

How did you compile this list? What kind of research was involved?

And also explain. People are raising questions. You know, everybody understands

why, you know, defense arms manufacturer Lockheed Martin is on the list. But it might be less clear

why, for example, the Korean carmaker, Hyundai or the French bank, BNP, Paribat. Why are they on the list?

Just explain the range of companies you're looking at

and the extent to which they have and in what ways enabled what Israel is doing in Gaza.

Absolutely, I mean, first of all, I have to say that this situation where economic actors from armed manufacturers to even

universities, banks, pension funds are part of a settler colonial endeavor of taking land

and resources from people to the benefit of others is not new. This is 500 years of colonialism and settler colonialism, which has also had genocide.

So what is shocking is that it's happening, it has been happening under our nose,

under our eyes for so many years as the human rights system was developing.

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