Ty Cobb on Trump, Putin, and the Death of Alexey Navalny

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🗓️ 23 February 2024

⏱️ 15 minutes

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Summary

The former Trump White House attorney is sounding the alarm on the consequences of ignoring the ex-President’s rhetoric on Russia, and his actions on January 6th.

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0:00.0	This is the New Yorker Radio Hour, a co-production of WNYC studios and the New Yorker.
0:08.0	Welcome to the New Yorker Radio Hour.
0:11.0	I'm David Remnick.
0:12.0	Seven years ago, Radio Hour, I'm David Remnick.
0:18.6	Seven years ago, Ty Cobb was a partner in a big international law firm, prominent, well-connected.
0:21.0	Then he got a phone call. Would he give up his job to go work for the White House for a while?
0:26.0	The client was Donald Trump, and the issue was Russian interference in the 2016 election.
0:31.0	Trump and many others were being investigated
0:33.7	in a probe headed by Robert Mueller, the former FBI director.
0:38.2	In the end, some of Trump's circle were indicted.
0:41.2	Some even went to jail. But Trump himself avoided indictment and dismissed
0:46.0	the entire thing as a witch hunt. But Ty Cobb went on to call Robert Mueller an American
0:51.8	hero and Trump a threat to democracy.
0:55.0	And one of the presidents of a big country who stood up said,
0:59.0	well sir, if we don't pay and we're attacked by Russia, will you protect us? I said, you didn't pay, you're
1:06.7	delinquent? He said, yes, let's say that happened. No, I would not protect you. In In fact I would encourage them to do whatever the
1:14.6	hell they want. You gotta pay. You gotta pay your bills. Now once again
1:18.9	Donald Trump's attitude toward Vladimir Putin is in the headlines, say after his recent remarks about NATO,
1:24.6	and in the wake of Alexei Navalny's death
1:27.4	in a Russian prison.
1:29.1	Trump is also facing more than 90 criminal charges.
1:32.8	I spoke about all of that last week with Ty cop.
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