Two years since the pandemic began, Dr. Elisabeth Rosenthal and Dr. James Hamblin assess what have we learned

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🗓️ 11 March 2022

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Brian Stelter catches up with two public health experts who helped explain Covid-19 when the pandemic first upended American life two years ago this week. Dr. Elisabeth Rosenthal and Dr. James Hamblin discuss the initial "communication vacuum," the decline of trust in information sources, and the potential end of the pandemic.

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0:00.0	Okay, I'm going to try something here that's probably going to tempt fate, but I think it's worth trying.
0:08.7	Could this be the final reliable sources podcast episode about COVID-19? Could this be it?
0:18.0	Could this be the last time we convene guests here on the podcast and talk about the two-year-long pandemic?
0:24.1	Maybe? Hopefully? I don't know, but that is one of the questions for this week's episode. Let's go ahead and get started. Let's cue the music.
0:42.2	I'm Brian Stelter, and this weekly podcast is our chance to go more in-depth, talking with media leaders and
0:49.7	newsmakers about how the news gets made. Right now, we're at this two-year
0:57.0	anniversary. For some reason, anniversary feels like the wrong word, but two years since the COVID-19
1:04.0	pandemic upended life as we knew it in the United States. It was two years ago. Basically, today,
1:11.3	I'm taping this on March 10th. It was March 11th when life started to stop in the United States. I've
1:22.1	seen March 11th described as the day everything changed. It was the day the NBA shut down its season.
1:27.8	It was the day Tom Hanks tested positive. It was right around this time, two years ago,
1:35.6	that everything grinded to a halt. Now, it really feels like history when we look back at it.
1:45.8	We've been through repeated surges, most recently, with Omicron. We've been through waves of
1:52.0	vaccination and boosting. We've been through so much unnecessary death and suffering.
1:58.1	Maybe now we're coming out the other end. Maybe now this can be the final episode of this podcast
2:06.0	about COVID-19. Or maybe we'll be back in a year or two talking about it again. I don't know,
2:13.5	but I do know I have two experts with me who have fantastic insights about the last two years,
2:20.4	about what went right and what went wrong, about trust in the media and trust in public health
2:25.3	officials. Fantastic insights from Dr. James Hamlin and Dr. Elizabeth Rosenthaus. Let me bring
2:31.4	them in in just a moment. Dr. Hamlin and Dr. Rosenthaus were both with me on CNN right around this time
2:37.4	two years ago. They were two of the final guests that I had in person on set talking about this
2:43.4	looming pandemic. I thought it would be interesting to revisit that with them. Dr. Hamlin is a lecturer at
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