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Pod Save America

Two Strikes. Is Hegseth Out?

Pod Save America

Crooked Media

News, Politics

4.683.5K Ratings

🗓️ 5 December 2025

⏱️ 91 minutes

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Summary

Secretary of War Pete Hegseth reacts defiantly to two scandals: his department's decision to murder the survivors of a September strike on an alleged Venezuelan drug boat, and a Pentagon report that found that Hegseth's infamous Signal messages put American troops at risk. Jon and Dan discuss what comes next for the former Fox News host, and then jump into the rest of the news, including Trump's disgusting comments about Somali Americans, his insistence that affordability is a Democratic "con job," and Mike Johnson's struggles to hold his caucus together after the GOP's underperformance in the TN-07 special election. Then, Dan talks to Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries about Democratic momentum heading into the midterms, the ongoing investigation into the double-tap strike, and Trump's pardon of embattled Democratic Congressman Henry Cuellar.

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There's no safe like SimplySafe. Welcome to Pod Save America. I'm John Fabro. On today's show, we'll talk about the latest drama with Mike Johnson and House Republicans after their way too close for comfort win in Tuesday's Tennessee special election,

1:32.3

as well as Donald Trump's promise to come to their rescue with a nationwide messaging blitz

1:36.8

on affordability, the issue he calls a con job. We'll also talk about Trump's especially disgusting,

1:43.1

even for him, comments about Somali immigrants and how the Pentagon Press Corps has now officially been replaced with intrepid journalists like Laura Lumer and Matt Gates.

1:53.9

Then Dan talks to Democratic leader Hakeem Jeffries about Trump's pardon of Congressman Henry Quayar, Mike Johnson's headaches, and lots more.

2:02.7

But let's start with the new developments and what is still the biggest political story of the week.

2:09.7

Beat Hexathe's a fucking geez.

2:14.6

Had to do it. Had to do it. Because he is. Because he is. Hegsteth continues to live up to the song. A new independent investigation of Signalgate from his own Department of Defense found that his actions put American troops at risk. We'll talk more about that in a bit. And he was defiant this week about the Pentagon's decision to murder the survivors of a September strike on an alleged Venezuelan drug boat.

2:37.1

Here's Hegsef during one of those 24-hour cabinet meetings where everyone takes turns glazing Trump while he catches a few winks.

2:44.8

Got another use of glazing, huh?

2:46.1

We've only just begun striking narco boats and putting narco terrorists at the bottom of the ocean.

2:53.6

I did not personally see survivors, but I stand, because the thing was on fire.

2:58.6

It was exploded and fire or smoke, you can't see anything, you got digital, there's...

3:02.6

This is called the fog of war.

3:04.6

This is what you and the press don't understand. You sit in your air-conditioned

3:08.6

offices or up on Capitol Hill and you nitpick and you plant fake stories in the Washington

3:13.8

Post about kill everybody. I watched that first strike live. As you can imagine at the

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