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The Daily

Two Soldiers, Ten Years

The Daily

The New York Times

Daily News, News

4.4102.8K Ratings

🗓️ 21 May 2021

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

This episode contains strong language and scenes of war that some may find distressing. In 2010, James Dao, then a military affairs reporter for The New York Times, began following a battalion of U.S. soldiers headed for Afghanistan. Two soldiers caught his attention: Adrian Bonenberger, a single, 32-year-old captain, and Tamara Sullivan, a 30-year-old sergeant and mother of two. As President Biden prepares to withdraw troops from Afghanistan this fall, we revisit those interviews and follow up with the two soldiers. Guest: James Dao, a National editor for The New York Times.

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0:00.0

From New York Times, I'm Michael Bobaro. This is a daily.

0:09.0

I'm leaving for Afghanistan sometime this morning.

0:12.0

There's nothing in the world I'd rather be doing.

0:14.0

I'm excited yet nervous at the same time.

0:18.0

Ten years ago, the Times began following a battalion of US soldiers

0:23.0

as they set off for a deployment to Afghanistan.

0:27.0

My main concern is whether or not I'll still be me when I get back.

0:33.0

I've promised everybody that I would come back and that's kind of a promise that I can't really keep.

0:41.0

Now, as President Biden prepares for a complete withdrawal of US forces from Afghanistan this fall,

0:49.0

my colleague Jim Dow tells the story of two soldiers he met back in 2010.

0:57.0

And how America's longest war shaped their lives then and now.

1:13.0

It's Friday, May 21st.

1:28.0

So in 2010, I was a military affairs reporter for the Times.

1:32.0

I've been covering the war in Afghanistan, which at that point had been going on for nine years already.

1:38.0

And I'd seen how the US mission had spiraled well out beyond its original goal.

1:43.0

It went from defeating Osama bin Maad in the Taliban after the 9-11 attacks

1:48.0

to building a democratic government in Afghanistan.

1:51.0

And then by 2010, they were just trying to stabilize the place.

2:00.0

Car bombs and attacks by Taliban and other insurgents happened every day.

2:04.0

It was this feeling among many I talked to that the US needed to find a way to end its mission as quickly as possible.

2:10.0

And to do that, President Obama made a controversial decision.

2:14.0

He doubled down and sent more troops, some 30,000 more, into Afghanistan.

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