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That's So Fcked Up

TSFU INTERVIEWS: Ep. 5- Erin Riley, Author of "A Dark Force: 20 Years with a Covert Narcissist"

That's So Fcked Up

Ashley Love Richards

Comedy, True Crime, Society & Culture

4.5541 Ratings

🗓️ 10 February 2025

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

In this episode of TSFU Interviews, Fallon chats with Erin Riley, author of "A Dark Force: 20 Years with a Covert Narcissist". They talk about recognizing narcissistic abuse and ways to process and deal with it, as well as her adventures in and around the music business"!

Celebrated music maven Erin Riley looked like she had it all: a 1960s Mad Men–style upbringing on Manhattan’s Upper West Side, then an escape to “find herself” in glamorous 1970s Hollywood, where she landed some of the most influential positions of the 1980s music industry. She hung out with rock stars like Keith Richards, Steven Tyler, James Taylor, and Jon Bon Jovi and chose the hit records for America’s #1 rock & roll radio station, WMMR-FM. But her colorful, raucous, rock & roll life hid dark secrets.An emotionally neglected child with a generational legacy of stoicism and hiding painful truths, Erin had no real experience with love and healthy relationships. The marriage she thought would be her happily-ever-after led to 20 years of confusion, heartbreak, anger, and betrayal, all fueled by a malignant covert narcissist.

Erin’s honest, searing memoir recounts her self-discovery journey through a series of life’s traumas and tragedies, her many bad decisions, and two toxic marriages. Her story will bring insight and guidance to survivors of narcissistic abuse and those questioning their relationships, and the hope that they, like Erin, can find a joyous rock & roll redemption." - Amazon

Please check out Erin's website! You can purchase Erin's book on Amazon! Follow her on Instagram and Facebook!

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0:00.0

There are a lot of people in the world that don't have your best interests in mind right from the get-go.

0:06.0

They have their own best interests in mind.

0:08.0

And when they are coming and love bombing you and giving you this attention and you feel seen and heard and loved and recognized for all your good qualities, they're pumping you up, they're just doing that because they want to capture you for themselves.

0:24.5

And once they get you, that's when the devaluing stage starts.

0:28.2

That phrase right there just like hits me.

0:31.2

That is so fucked up.

0:34.4

It's fucked up.

0:36.3

So fucked up.

0:39.3

It is just so damn fucked up. It is just so damn fucked up.

0:43.3

That's fucked up.

0:48.3

Welcome back to the podcast.

0:50.3

This is Fallon, Mory.

0:52.3

I'm without Ashley again this week. And this is That's So Fucked Up,

0:55.8

podcast about Colts crime and things that make you say, ugh, that's so fucked up. I am here today

1:02.3

for another interview and I'm talking to the amazing Aaron Riley. Aaron has written a book

1:09.0

called A Dark Force, 20 years with a covert narcissist.

1:13.1

It is a fantastic read. I did it in one sitting pretty much, like one or two days, though.

1:19.7

I don't know. Oh, that was a lot. But I'm really excited to talk to you today, Aaron, and hear her

1:26.2

thoughts on a number of fun topics like narcissism and

1:29.5

also there's going to be an amazing amount of rock and roll. So welcome to the podcast, Erin.

1:34.5

Thank you for having me, Fallon. I want to say I was so drawn to your podcast initially for the

1:41.2

title because being an empathetic person, when somebody takes advantage of you or does you wrong,

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