TS&TT: When Church Leaders Sin Scandalously

The Sword & The Trowel

Founders Ministries

Education, Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

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🗓️ 3 October 2024

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Today on The Sword & The Trowel podcast, Tom Ascol and Graham Gunden discuss the recent dismissal of Steve Lawson from his Pastoral role and how we should respond when church leaders sin in these grievous ways. They discuss the seriousness of sin and how we each individually need to be on guard against the attacks of the devil. They also address the importance of the local church, church discipline, the dangers of conference circuits & "celebrity" pastors, and more. Show Notes: FREE Bag of Coffee from Squirrelly Joe's: https://SquirrellyJoes.com/Founders Get 10% off Miller's Grove Soap with code "FOUNDERS": https://TheMillersGrove.com Get your bag of Know Your Roast Coffee: https://press.founders.org/shop/know-your-roast-coffee-new-hampshire-light-roast/ Pre-order Who Made You?: https://press.founders.org/shop/who-made-you/ 2025 National Founders Conference: Revive Us, O Lord! Shop the Founders Press Store: https://press.founders.org/ Become a part of the F.A.M. https://press.founders.org/fam/ The Institute of Public Theology: https://www.instituteofpublictheology.org/ Wield The Sword: https://founders.org/wieldthesword/ Follow Founders Ministries: Website: https://founders.org Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/FoundersMin/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/FoundersMin Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/foundersministries/ All Founders Ministries resources are copyrighted and any use and distribution must be approved by Founders Ministries.

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0:00.0	Thank you for joining us for this conversation on the sword and the trial today.
0:03.0	Pastor Tom and I today are speaking about the recent issue with Stephen Lawson and him being dismissed from his church.
0:10.0	This is an episode in which we talk about the deceitfulness of sin and how we all need to be on guard with these sins in our own minds and in our own hearts,
0:17.0	and also the importance of the local church and how we ought to prioritize
0:21.2	our local church and our local pastors and elders, even above those who the Lord has gifted
0:26.4	outside of our churches to preach the Word of God to us. So I hope this episode is helpful to you.
0:32.6	Stay tuned.
0:36.1	Welcome to The Sword and the Troll. The Sword and the Troll is a podcast of Founders Ministries
0:39.9	and Founders Exists for the Reformation of Local Churches and the Recovery of the Gospel. I'm Graham Gundin.
0:44.4	And I'm Tom Askell. And this episode is caffeinated by Squirley Joe's Coffee and cleansed by the Miller's Grove soap company.
0:50.8	There you go. Those are two great companies, by the way. We use their products and benefit greatly from all their good work. Yeah, today what we want to do on the podcast is we
0:59.5	want to talk about the recent situation, the issue with Steve Lawson, and what has happened
1:04.2	recently with him and his ministry and his church. Yeah. I've just come back from Alaska,
1:10.4	took a look extended time away out in the middle of nowhere up there. And when I got back to civilization, I think it was the second day, my text started blowing up and phone calls and people talking about this. And it was just like for so many who knew Steve, no Steve, or who benefited from his
1:28.4	ministry, it's like a gut punch. You hated it. A lot wasn't said. I think it was the 19th of
1:34.9	September when the Trinity Church in Dallas, his church, the elders issued a statement and said
1:41.9	that he'd been disqualified from the ministry because of an
1:44.4	inappropriate relationship.
1:46.2	And, of course, you think inappropriate relationship, that's a phrase that can cover a wide
1:51.0	range of possibilities.
1:53.0	And, of course, people have speculated and people have protested and criticized the elders
1:58.3	for the way they did that.
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