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🗓️ 9 January 2025
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0:00.0 | Thanks for joining us for this conversation today on the Sword and the Trial. |
0:03.0 | Today, Tom and I talk about the physical, temporal needs of churches and congregations, |
0:08.0 | particularly when it comes to self-defense and the many different threats, terror threats, etc. |
0:13.0 | that we've seen on the rise in our nation towards churches, towards Christians, |
0:17.0 | and then also just the new danger that is on the rise as well for Christians and that Christian |
0:22.1 | men in particular need to be aware of. |
0:23.9 | I hope this conversation is helpful to you. |
0:26.3 | Take a listen. |
0:28.1 | Welcome to The Sword and the Trial. |
0:31.2 | The Sword and the Trial is a podcast of Founders Ministries which exists for the recovery of |
0:34.7 | the gospel and the reformation of local churches. |
0:37.0 | I'm Graham Gundin. |
0:37.9 | I'm Tom Askell. |
0:38.8 | And this episode is brought to you by Squirley Joe's Coffee, the Miller's Grove soap company, |
0:42.9 | and Reconciled Leatherco. |
0:44.4 | Today, Tom and I want to talk a little bit about shepherding through the negative world, |
0:49.3 | particularly when it comes to issues of danger and safety and self-defense and the temporal physical |
0:56.3 | needs of the congregation. |
0:57.7 | Yeah, I think I may have mentioned here on an earlier podcast that it dawned on me, |
1:03.1 | I don't know, a while back, read Aaron Wren's book on Life in the Negative World a while |
1:07.2 | back right after it came out, it dawned on me that I have pastored through the |
1:11.5 | positive world, the neutral world, and the negative world. I'm in the negative world now. And I |
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