Welcome to the Sword and Trial, which is a podcast of Founders Ministries.

I'm Tom Askell.

And I'm Graham Gundin.

We're coming to you from sunny Cape Coral, Florida, where in just a few days, we're going to be hosting the National Founders Conference.

Graham, tell folks about what's coming up.

January 20th through the 22nd.

And if you've not been to a Founders National Conference, you really need to come because they are just a blast.

Lots of great people to have fellowship with, lots of great sermons, great speakers. And I mean, we have things like dinners. We have after parties. We have big bookstores. So you really got to get here for that. And then also the pre-conference is coming up January 19th. That's the day before the conference starts, and that's

at Grace Baptist Church, so our church. So you can register for that online as well at Founders.org.

Yeah, we'd love to have you come. I think there's still opportunity to sign up for those things,

as well as for the fam dinner that'll be Thursday night, and I forget the details on that, but again, you can go to the

founder's website and sign up for the dinner, come. That'll be a fun time, just kind of reviewing

what's going on with founders, where we're going in the future. We got Voddy Bakum, Tom Buck, Conrad

and Bayway, Travis Allen, and James Coates, all scheduled to be here to speak for us. Pray that God

will work out all the international

travel challenges. There have been a lot of them, but it looks like we've got them negotiated and

we're just trusting the Lord to work everything in a proper way. So that's coming up this next week. Pray

for that ministry as God brings it to mind. We also have a couple of new books that we want to

recommend to you.

It's the Transcultural Gospel by E.D. Burns.

I misspoke earlier talking to Graham about it.

And the, what, what I call it?

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