Ts Madison Talks Being Comfortable in Her Skin
Baby, this is Keke Palmer
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🗓️ 26 November 2024
⏱️ 58 minutes
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Summary
You might know her from one of her many viral social media moments, “RuPaul’s Drag Race,” or her iconic feature on Beyonce’s “Cozy.” Today’s guest is loud, proud, and unapologetically herself. Ts Madison is here to spill all the tea on the commercialization of trans culture, and tell us how she became comfortable in her own skin. She also opens up about letting go of guilt and learning how to reconnect with real emotions after working in the sex industry. You’re not gonna want to miss a second of this real talk—it’s raw, it’s powerful, and it might just leave you seeing yourself a little differently too.
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| 0:00.0 | This episode is sponsored by our friends over at Airbnb. If you're itching for your next |
| 0:05.2 | weekend getaway, remember, some trips are better in an Airbnb. Now let's get this thing going. |
| 0:15.6 | Hey guys, I'm your girl, Kiki Palmer, and today I want to talk about the commercialization |
| 0:19.2 | of communities or the commodification. Specifically, I talking about the trans community and I'm wondering what exactly |
| 0:25.4 | feels like it makes sense and people are learning and what feels like it's being used as a fad. |
| 0:30.6 | So I'm bringing on T.S. Madison and I want to hear all about it from her perspective as a black trans woman. |
| 0:36.6 | Get ready because baby, this is Kiki Palmer. No matter what we're doing in the car, just chilling, popo, Amazon music, sit back and listen. Life, love, sex, science, covering it all, especially the bad because money always involved. No matter what it is, we gonna make it make sense. Nothing else to do but kick it with the homies and keying.. So grab you a drink and a snack you enjoy and get into the vibe that only want this is called. |
| 0:58.0 | You know it's your girl. |
| 0:59.0 | Baby, this is, this is Kiki. |
| 1:02.0 | Baby, this is Kiki Poma, yeah. |
| 1:09.0 | Okay, so Sharon, I'm excited to talk about this with you because obviously anything and everything can be commercialized. |
| 1:14.6 | Yes. |
| 1:15.6 | And it makes me think about, um, it makes me think about actually the movie Edward Scissorshands. |
| 1:19.6 | Oh yes, yes, yes. |
| 1:21.6 | As a kid, I was kind of like, okay, the motherfucker got Souser Hands. |
| 1:24.6 | Excuse me. |
| 1:25.6 | But then as time went on, like, and obviously a couple of Reddit threads, I realized that it was |
| 1:32.2 | actually about the commodification of uniqueness or just being you, being different, standing |
| 1:37.6 | out, and how at first you can be, you know, people can come at you for being whoever you |
| 1:42.8 | are, whatever your culture is. |
| 2:37.4 | Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then very quickly it can become like, ooh, I love it. Right. And kind of, you know, speaking to like what is the fine line of not necessarily just commercializing something, but making something feel, let me, making something normalized because it's important. Right. Especially when we're talking about communities where people are marginalized, being killed, being hurt, etc. The commercialization of it sometimes makes it feel more relatable. People are educated. They can understand more. But then also it could create this thing where everybody's just like, I'm in it. You know, and it's like where do you draw the law? Like a fat. or appropriation or, you know what I'm saying? Of course. So I'm curious from you what has been like witnessing the commercialization of just blackness. I know that was a big one. Well, you know, I've been black my whole life. Really? So, I mean, obviously I've seen the fats and the trends and, you know, they come and go. |
| 2:39.1 | And it's just, you know, it's kind of funny. |
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