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Trump-Xi agreement a ‘fragile truce,’ former deputy national security advisor says

PBS News Hour - Segments

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🗓️ 30 October 2025

⏱️ 6 minutes

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For another view on the Trump-Xi meeting, Amna Nawaz spoke with Matt Pottinger. He was deputy national security adviser in the first Trump administration and spearheaded China policy as the confrontation with Beijing accelerated. He now serves as chairman of the China Program at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies, a Washington think tank. PBS News is supported by - https://www.pbs.org/newshour/about/funders. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy

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0:00.0

Now to another view. Matt Pottinger was Deputy National Security Advisor in the first Trump administration, and he spearheaded China policy as the confrontation with Beijing accelerated. He serves now as chairman of the China program at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies. That's the Washington Think Tank. Matt, welcome back to the News Hour. Thanks for joining us.

0:19.5

Yeah, thanks for having me. Let's pick up with that issue of those advanced Nvidia chips you heard Ambassador Burns just

0:24.5

talking about because you have also previously said the sale of those chips to China would be a

0:29.1

catastrophe for U.S. technological leadership. You heard President Trump say they didn't discuss it in

0:35.1

the meeting, that it's up to China and NVIDIA to work out a deal

0:38.3

and the U.S. would act as an arbitrator. So does all of that assuage your concerns?

0:44.3

Well, yeah, I'm certainly relieved that President Trump was not talked into giving away the most advanced

0:53.1

chips or even reasonably advanced chips,

0:56.8

which is really what was on the table, really advanced chips made by NVIDIA.

1:02.4

It's clear that the leader of the company, NVIDIA, wants to sell, you know, who can blame him?

1:08.2

He wants to sell his chips everywhere, right?

1:10.4

But for the reasons that you just heard Ambassador Burns talk about, that would be a real disaster for the United States, not only because it would help the People's Liberation Army, you know, it would put us in danger and in an inferior position militarily.

1:27.1

But AI is going to be like electricity.

1:30.5

It's going to permeate everything.

1:32.6

The commercial uses.

1:34.3

It means that information flow, the public square, all these things are going to be either

1:40.6

controlled by an authoritarian government or they're going to be part of a free and democratic

1:47.2

kind of order, which is what we all stand for here in the United States. So it's really important

1:52.4

that we maintain that leadership. The biggest area where we have a lead over China and AI is

1:57.9

actually access to these high-end, very powerful chips.

2:02.8

Let me ask you, take a bigger picture look here at what was agreed upon in this

2:06.4

truce, as it's being called, in the trade war. Do you agree with what you heard from Ambassador

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