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Welcome to the Eastside McCauley podcast.

I'm your host, Issaa McCauley.

Today on the podcast, we have Justin Gibney, the founder,

the co-founder and president of the end campaign, and Michael Ware, the founder and director of

the Center for Christian Public Engagement, Witness, Inspiration. What is it? Tell me, it's a day

at the election, man. I can get that wrong. Tell me what it is, Michael.

Center for Christianity in public life.

The Center for Christianity and Public Life. People are going to remember it now because I messed it up.

Obviously, we're going to have y'all on to say a little bit about the election, and we're going to get to that.

But I thought I would start off the podcast with something a little bit hopeful, not too silly, because this isn't a silly moment of the life of the Republic.

But I wanted to ask y'all, if someone said, give me your Mount Rushmore.

That means your top four, either politicians or political figures who've inspired you or who are kind of moral guys for you, anytime in history, who would they be?

Let's give me your top four.

We will ask Michael first.

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