Welcome to the beat. I'm Jason Johnson and for Ari Melbur, and we start with a break in the January 6th investigation.

A major witness is going to testify. Trump White House counsel Pat Cipollone will go under oath.

His lawyer indicated a transcribed interview, but his testimony will be on camera.

It's Friday. Cipollone knows it all, and this news is huge for the probe. He was witness to talks on

ceasing voting machines, sending fake electors to Congress, and was in the West Wing on January 6th.

He has spoken to the committee before in an informal setting, but this testimony is under oath,

stemming from a subpoena, coming just after the bombshell testimony on Trump's violent coup from Cassidy Hutchinson.

On January 3rd, Mr. Cipollone had approached me.

Mr. Cipollone and I had a brief private conversation where he said to me, we need to make sure that this doesn't happen.

This would be legally a terrible idea for us. Pat Cipollone barreling down the hallway towards our office. I saw Mr. Cipollone right

before I walked out onto West Exec that morning and Mr. Cipollone said something to the effect of,

please make sure we don't go up to the Capitol Cassidy.

Keep in touch with me.

We're going to get charges of every crime imaginable.

Pat was concerned it would look like we were obstructing justice

or obstructing the electoral college count.

He warned Trump's team of quote, every crime imaginable.

And specifically mentioned, too.

He was in that Oval Office meeting when Trump floated the idea of

decapitating the DOJ to install loyalist Jeffrey Clark.

And to where testimony, Jared Kushner talked about Cipollone's threats to resign.

Jared, are you aware of instances where Pat Cipollone threatened to resign?

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