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Hello, Andrew.

Hey, Bob.

How you doing?

I'm doing great.

I know your audio-only listeners won't be able to see this,

but check out the sweet cup I got. Ooh, Earthling mug. Looks like it's going away present. I got to keep it center frame. Yes. I keep, you know, Karina kept on telling me because I was like, oh, I'm going to send a picture of our baby whose name I don't say on podcasts. But you know, you also sent us a going away present

a onesie with a little non-zero logo on it. And she looks very cute in it. And then a few mugs.

And Karina keeps telling me, send it, send a picture of the baby and the onesie and say,

thank you. And I should have done that by now. So this is my official thank you for this very

cool looking earthling mug. At least I can do, Andrew.

And for people who are completely disoriented, let me explain what you're talking about.

So Andrew Day, until a couple of months ago, was part of the non-zero media empire.

But now he's part of the American Conservative media empire.

Is it a senior editor or the senior editor at the American conservative?

I say the senior editor, uh, just because it sounds cool.

What does the other senior editor say about that?

Well, there isn't another senior editor.

I think Samatra Matra, uh, who is a very smart guy, one of the writers on staff, he had

been senior editor and now he's kind of been unleashed as senior writer.

And his word is worth checking out.

Are there junior editors?

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