Trump vs. The Judges

Political Gabfest

Slate Podcasts

Politics, Government, News

4.5 • 8.3K Ratings

🗓️ 13 February 2025

⏱️ 69 minutes

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Summary

This week, Emily Bazelon, John Dickerson, and David Plotz discuss the constitutional crisis developing between President Trump and the courts, the attack on NIH and overhead funding, and political sorting among American workplaces. For this week’s Slate Plus bonus episode, Emily, John, and David discuss their recent favorite TV shows, focusing on HBO’s Somebody Somewhere and its relevance to contemporary American experiences. In the latest Gabfest Reads, Emily talks with Yael van der Wouden about her novel, The Safekeep. Email your chatters, questions, and comments to [email protected]. (Messages may be referenced by name unless the writer stipulates otherwise.) Research by Emily Ditto Want more Political Gabfest? Join Slate Plus to unlock weekly bonus episodes. Plus, you’ll access ad-free listening across all your favorite Slate podcasts. You can subscribe directly from the Political Gabfest show page on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. Or visit slate.com/gabfestplus to get access wherever you listen. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hello and welcome to the Slate Political Gab Fest.
0:07.5	Yeah, the answer is I always abide by the courts, always abide by him, and will appeal.
0:16.1	February 13, 2025, the Trump versus the Judges Edition.
0:22.0	I'm David Plotz of CityCast here in Washington, D.C., a snowy, Washington, D.C.
0:26.7	From Manhattan, John Dickerson, co-anchor of the CBS Evening News, and the anchor of his own
0:34.6	new streaming show on CBS,
0:38.0	which is called what, John?
0:39.1	Evening News Plus.
0:40.9	Oh, what a original name.
0:43.1	Yes, just have to remember one more word or just a character on the keyboard.
0:48.8	But it's not to be confused with CBS ampersand.
0:51.9	Okay.
0:52.6	That was, does Law and Order have an ampersand in it?
0:55.5	Law and order probably isn't CBS anyway.
0:57.4	That is Emily Bazelon from the New York Times Magazine and Yale University Law School, shushing us.
1:03.7	Emily is the only lawyer in America, I think, who is not currently involved in litigation,
1:08.1	involving the Trump administration.
1:09.5	So she has a few minutes for us.
1:12.4	Hello, Emily.
1:13.2	Hello.
1:14.1	This week on the Gab Fest is the stampede of Trump orders and government disruptions a
1:22.3	constitutional crisis and are judges rising to meet the challenge if it is. Then we'll dig into a tense specific
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