Trump vs. the IOC

Hang Up and Listen

Slate Podcasts

News, Sports, Sports News

4.6 • 986 Ratings

🗓️ 4 August 2025

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Hosts Alex Kirshner, Ben Lindbergh, and Lindsay Gibbs talk to sportswriter Rodger Sherman about how the United States’ immigration maneuvering might affect the Olympics. They also discuss the NFL’s new multibillion dollar deal with ESPN, and how the Minnesota Twins’ massive trade-off could affect the team – and the rest of MLB. On the bonus episode available exclusively for Slate Plus members, the panel holds a special draft: one fictional player and one real player they want back in the game. IOC (4:20): Trump’s immigration plans run afoul of the IOC. NFL ESPN(23:27): ESPN acquires a ton of NFL assets. Minnesota Twins (40:11): The team’s trade deadline turns into a fire sale. (Note: time codes are only accurate for Slate Plus members, who listen ad-free.) Get more Hang Up and Listen with Slate Plus! Join for weekly bonus episodes of Hang Up and Listen and ad-free listening on all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe from the Hang Up and Listen show page on Apple Podcasts or Spotify, or visit slate.com/hangupplus for access wherever you listen. You can email us at [email protected]. Podcast production by Paige Osburn and Kevin Bendis, with production assistance from Patrick Fort. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:19.6	It is Monday, August 4th, 2025. Welcome back to Hang Up and Listen, the sports podcast here at Slate.
0:26.6	Back with you yet again. I'm Alex Kirchner. I'm a contributing writer for Slate, and I co-host split-zone duo, a national college football podcast.
0:34.2	We have a full and fun show for you this week, or an interesting show. I don't know if
0:37.6	it's all fun, but it's a heavy topic to start. The United States has a couple of high-profile
0:42.0	international sporting events coming stateside over the next few years. We're going to talk
0:45.9	with the sports writer Roger Sherman, a longtime Olympics obsessive, who will join us to talk about
0:51.2	how the United States' immigration maneuvering might affect one
0:54.5	of those events in particular. ESPN struck a deal with the NFL to give itself access to a bunch
0:59.6	of big-time media assets like Red Zone and the NFL network. It's a massive deal that will subtly,
1:05.2	or maybe not subtly, change how we consume the biggest sport in the country. We'll talk about that
1:09.0	too. And in baseball, the most
1:11.1	catastrophic trade deadline was probably that of the Minnesota Twins, who appear to be not so
1:15.9	much trying to win ball games as to slim down for a sale. As usual, joining me this week is
1:21.1	Lindsay Gibbs, the publisher of PowerPlays, a newsletter that covers the biggest sports of the
1:25.8	moment in women's athletics.
1:28.7	Lindsay, how are you?
1:29.3	How you doing?
1:31.0	I'm doing so good.
1:33.8	Tranny Rodman's return has me hyped.
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