What's up, everybody? My name is Dmitra Kaffinus, and you're listening to Hidden Forces,

a podcast that inspires investors, entrepreneurs, and everyday citizens, to challenge consensus

narratives, and learn how to think critically about the systems of power shaping our world.

What you're about to hear is the sixth episode in a podcast series

hosted by me and my co-host, Grant Williams, titled The Hundred Year Pivot. In it, we speak with

some of the smartest and most plugged in people we know to help position ourselves, our organizations,

our families, and our portfolios for the once-in-a-century economic, political,

and geopolitical reordering that we believe is currently underway. In today's conversation,

Grant and I speak with former commercial trial attorney, portfolio manager, and longtime critic

of Elon Musk, Lawrence Fosse, about the recent fallout between the president

and his biggest political booster. It's a critical and sober exploration of the political

and budgetary challenges facing the country that spares no criticism of either Trump or Musk,

and is not meant for the politically sensitive or easily offended partisan listener.

In it, we discuss Musk's failed efforts to address the budget,

his support for the formation of a new third party, and what the future holds for the world's richest man.

We also place an equally critical lens over the Trump administration,

examining the president's time in office,

the sum effect of his actions, and what the next three and a half years could mean for the country. If you want access to this conversation, go to hiddenforces.io slash subscribe

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And with that, please enjoy this timely and sober conversation with our guest, Lawrence Fawson.