Happy Thanksgiving, Matter of Opinion family. Michelle Cottle here. My beloved co-hosts and I are off this week for the holiday, but in case you're like me and craving a distraction from all of the family drama, we have a special treat for you from our very own Carlos Lasada. Okay, now faithful movsters know that Carlos

loves to talk books, especially political memoirs, but he does not usually talk much about himself,

which is what makes today's episode so special. In this audio essay, Carlos shares his experience as an immigrant from Peru and how

that's affected his view of Donald Trump's talk about immigrants. It's pretty powerful stuff,

which is basically what you'd expect from Carlos. So take a listen for a little bit of real Carlos.

I'm Carlos Lozada. I am a columnist for New York Times opinion and a co-host of the Matter

of Opinion podcast. I'm always a little skeptical of pieces or of arguments that begin with as a you know like as a christian conservative

as a person of color as a progressive as a fill in the blank i feel there's a sort of assumed authority

there that has been granted and i think people are more complicated than the single overriding identity.

So I said I'm a columnist.

I'm a podcast host.

Those aren't my identities, right?

I mean, is that really me?

I mean, sometimes it is.

I'm a father.

I'm a son.

I'm a husband.

I'm a journalist.

I'm a reader.

I'm a fan of Notre Dame football. I'm also an immigrant.

Well, immigration remains a thorny and top issue with voters this election year.

We're going to seal up the border because right now we have an invasion. We have an invasion.

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