Marina and Jemma begin this episode talking about their various coping strategies for living through a political binfire and... January. They have classical music in common but a clip from comedian Michael Spicer causes them to wonder, is The Trawl the equivalent to Classic FM? 

Then, they can't put if off any longer, it's time to find out what the newly inaugurated President has been up to and man, he's been busy. Busy making hellish statements about Gaza, busy deporting people, busy making cuts to cancer research, and busy dismissing government watchdogs and hiring cronies. 

The Trawl ladies are particularly alarmed by his pick for Secretary of Defence, a Fox News anchor called Pete Hegseth who wants to change his role to 'Secretary of War.' Okaaaaay.

Still, Trump has claimed that Starmer is doing a 'good job'. Coming from him it's hardly praise you want framed. 

And inevitably Jemma and Marina want to discuss the fact that Musk spoke at an AfD rally in Germany. His words were chilling but hardly surprising given his choice of hand gesture on the world stage the week before. 

There are underrateds of course and pudding is a bit different to usual. A writer called Nate White wrote a magnificent response to the question 'Why do some British people not like Donald Trump?' Pudding gives you a flavour of his wonderful answer. 

Enjoy!

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