I'm Tom Batser with my colleague Andrew McCarthy and my colleague that is McCotter.

We turn to an article that Andy has published at the National Review online,

taking us into the intricacies of Section 1512 of the Federal Code, Federal Statute.

It is entitled,

tampering with a witness, victim, or an informant.

And you're most concerned with something that was added

after 2002 because of the Sarbanes-Oxley scandal, a subsection C having to do with what you'd have to say

a whole in the original tampering with a witness victim and foreman. What is subsection C that we need to understand in order to go forward with the prosecution of Mr. Trump?

John, subsection C of this particular obstruction statute was enacted because of basically because of the Enron scandal and the Arthur Anderson case

Which revealed that there was this gap in federal law where essentially it was a crime to cause someone else to shred documents but not to shred the documents oneself which was very strange so this provision is really aimed

at corrupting evidence in a proceeding mainly by shredding but that's what the

that's what the specific provision

subsection C is but in order to make sure that they covered all conceivable

bases what Congress did was add basically a general otherwise clause where in the first

clause they said you know essentially no shredding type behavior and they itemize the things that you're not allowed to do.

And then in the second clause they said, we're also making it criminal for anyone to otherwise corruptly obstruct a proceeding.

What that ends up doing is roping in a lot of people whose behavior not only is not anything like shredding documents

but may not even potentially may not even be criminal and the reason I say that

is we are allowed to petition government.

Constitutionally, that's a right that we have and that includes impeding them from doing things that we oppose.

So that them from doing things that we oppose.

So that provision potentially captures a lot of legal behavior.

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