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This Day in Esoteric Political History

Trump Shows Up In New Hampshire (1987) w/ Robert Fleegler

This Day in Esoteric Political History

Jody Avirgan & Radiotopia

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4.6982 Ratings

🗓️ 19 October 2023

⏱️ 25 minutes

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Summary

It’s October 19th. This day in 1987, real estate mogul Donald Trump was invited to New Hampshire to give a speech to a local GOP group. He bragged about his accomplishments, drew a big crowd and — of course — teased a possible presidential run.

Jody, Niki, and Kellie are joined by Robert Fleegler of the University Of Mississippi to discuss why Trump showed up in the early stages of the 1988 primary, and how his message then was almost exactly the same as his message now.

Robert’s latest book is “Brutal Campaign How the 1988 Election Set the Stage for Twenty-First-Century American Politics.”

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to this day in esoteric political history from radiotopia.

0:07.0

My name is Jody Avergan.

0:10.0

This day October 22nd, 1987, a shiny black French-made helicopter lands on a grassy airfield

0:18.3

in southern New Hampshire and outsteps a 41-year-old real estate developer from New York, red tie, blue suit, he gets into red tie, dark suit,

0:28.5

he gets into a rented limousine and rushes off to give a speech at the Portsmouth Rotary Club at a restaurant called

0:34.1

yolkins. This real estate developer as you may have gathered is Donald J. Trump and

0:38.4

this moment as you may have gathered is the run-up to the 1988 election.

0:43.6

Vice President George H.W. Bush would eventually go on to win the GOP nomination,

0:47.3

but at this point, more than a year out,

0:49.4

the field was pretty open and in stepped Trump to do what Trump does best.

0:54.0

Gin up some attention hinting at a possible presidential bid

0:57.8

and the speech that he gives in October 87 draws a bigger crowd

1:01.4

than many of the other possible candidates, the more realistic

1:05.1

candidates bigger than Bob Dole or Jack Kemp or Pat Robertson had drawn at the very same

1:10.1

venue. We've talked about some of the elements of this election before

1:14.0

mostly on the Democratic side like that photo of Michael Dukakis in the tank and I

1:17.7

don't know if we've done an episode on Gary Hart or not but it feels like we

1:20.5

probably have but anyway this is a chance to talk about the GOP race and of course the

1:25.1

seeds of Trump's political aspirations here to discuss this moment our special

1:29.4

guest for this episode Robert Fleigler associate Professor of History at the University of Mississippi, and

1:35.1

author of a new book called Brutal Campaign, How the 1988 Election set the stage for 21st

1:41.3

Century Politics.

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