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Worldly

Trump said Jerusalem is Israel’s capital. Now what?

Worldly

Vox Media Podcast Network

News Commentary, Politics, News

4.41.8K Ratings

🗓️ 7 December 2017

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

Yochi, Jenn, and Zack look at President Trump's decision to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, a move that breaks with decades of US foreign policy -- and that tells us a lot about how Trump makes decisions and how often his actions don't match his tough-guy rhetoric. When it came to the Jerusalem decision, Trump used the least-inflammatory language possible, paid lip service to restarting peace talks between Israel and the Palestinians, and made clear that the US embassy wouldn't be moving to the disputed city anytime soon. On Elsewhere, they look at the International Olympics Committee's decision to ban Russia from next year's Winter Games because of a massive doping scandal that involved Russian spies, high-ranking members of the Russian government, and dozens of Russian athletes. Jenn confesses to collecting USSR propaganda posters, Zack reaches deep into his thesaurus, and Yochi explains why vermouth is the drink of choice for female athletes looking to dope themselves to Olympic glory. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome to Worldly, Fox's Weekly Guide to the Most Important Stories in the World,

0:12.0

part of the Vox Media Podcast Network.

0:14.2

And before we get started, I want to tell you about something really exciting that's just

0:17.6

launched on our site. If you go to Vox.com slash borders, you'll see six documentaries done by Johnny Harris, one of the most talented

0:25.1

video journalists on our staff that take you to parts of the world where

0:28.0

borders aren't necessarily obvious and remind you that a border isn't aligned on a map

0:32.2

so much as it is fundamentally a human story

0:34.9

and one where fear on one side of the border could lead to mass human suffering on the other.

0:40.0

These are beautifully shot, they're beautifully filmed, they're things you won't have heard about before,

0:44.2

so have a look, again it's Vox.com slash Borders.

0:47.4

So, Zach, Jen, we're gonna begin with a collision between two of the most

0:51.2

controversial things in the world, Israel and

0:53.3

Donald Trump. It is time to officially recognize Jerusalem as the capital of

1:01.8

Israel.

1:03.3

So that's from this week with Trump saying he would recognize

1:06.5

Jerusalem as the capital of Israel and also begin moving the embassy,

1:10.3

the United States embassy in Israel from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem and that sounds genuinely huge and

1:16.0

genuinely historic and a genuine break.

1:18.0

Zach, is it?

1:20.0

So the big issue with moving the embassy is that it seems like the US pre-judging the outcome of what the Israeli-Palestinian negotiation should be.

1:29.0

That is saying we recognize Jerusalem as Israel's capital and not necessarily a Palestinian capital.

1:34.8

Trump and his talk tried to avoid doing that, his speech announcing this.

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