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The NPR Politics Podcast

Trump's Views On Russia-Ukraine War Are Shifting

The NPR Politics Podcast

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Politics, Daily News, News

4.524.9K Ratings

🗓️ 10 July 2025

⏱️ 13 minutes

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Summary

During the campaign, President Trump promised a swift end to the war in Ukraine, but he has so far not been able to strike a deal to stop the fighting. We discuss the president's changing views on the conflict and whether Washington is likely to approve more military aid to Ukraine.

This episode: political correspondent Ashley Lopez, national security correspondent Greg Myre, and senior national political correspondent Mara Liasson.

This podcast was produced by Casey Morell & Bria Suggs, and edited by Rachel Baye. Our executive producer is Muthoni Muturi.

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0:00.0

I'm Jesse Thorne. On Bolzai, George DeK, he talks about when he learned he was gay.

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He was growing up in L.A., surrounded by Mexican-American kit.

0:08.7

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0:15.8

Plus, we remember the life and work of one of America's greatest pop musicians, Sly Stone.

0:22.1

It's on Bolzai from Maximumfund.org and NPR. Hi, this is Ethan in San Diego, California, where I've just gotten back from my

0:28.2

first ever trip to our nation's capital, Washington, D.C. This podcast was recorded at

0:33.4

10.5 p.m. Eastern Time on Thursday, July 10, 2025.

0:41.5

Things may have changed by the time you hear it, but hopefully I will be planning my next vacation to my new favorite city in America. Enjoy the show.

0:48.9

Wow, I hope he wasn't disappointed. It sounds like he's one of the few that came here and

0:53.7

wants to come back. Yeah, the weather's

0:55.4

been all over the place, but I'm glad you had a good time. Hey there, it's the NPR Politics Podcast.

1:00.6

I'm Ashley Lopez. I cover politics. I'm Greg Myrie. I cover national security. And I'm

1:06.1

Mara Liason, senior national political correspondent. And today our focus is on the United States' role in the war in Ukraine.

1:13.7

Greg, so Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine started more than three years ago.

1:18.5

The U.S. has been supporting Ukraine with weapons since the very start of that.

1:22.2

Can you catch us up on where this war is now and how involved the U.S. is at this point?

1:30.5

Yeah, Ashley. Today is a really good typical example. Russia fired about 400 drones and 18 missiles into Ukraine, many of them at the

1:37.5

capital Kiev. Russian troops are hundreds of miles away from Kiev. There's no way they're going

1:43.0

to get to the city or take it.

1:45.4

So most of these missiles and drones are at civilian targets. It seems like it's really an

1:50.9

attempt to overwhelm Ukraine and sap the morale of civilians. And many of these civilians are

1:56.7

sleeping in their basements or in the subways during these attacks that last most of the night

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