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The Lawfare Podcast

Trump’s Trials and Tribulations: Gag Orders, Telephones, and Other Stuff

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4.76.4K Ratings

🗓️ 2 December 2023

⏱️ 87 minutes

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Summary

It's another edition of “Trump’s Trials and Tribulations,” recorded on Thursday before a live audience of Lawfare Material Supporters. Lawfare Editor-in-Chief Benjamin Wittes sat down with Lawfare Senior Editor Roger Parloff, Lawfare Legal Fellow Anna Bower, and special guest Kyle Cheney of Politico, to talk about Scott Perry's text messages that were newly revealed in a filing in D.C. District Court, about happenings with New York gag orders and D.C. gag orders, about Section 3 of the 14th Amendment cases, and about Anna's story about the Georgia Bureau of Investigation’s report in Coffee County and how much it sucked. 

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become a material supporter of Lawfair at Patreon.com slash Lawfair. That's Patreon.com

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Check the Uber app. What it did was it sent the matter back to the district court, now to Chief Judge Judge Bozburg who's supposed to now go through

1:05.2

document by document and decide which ones can go to Jack Smith. But the wrinkle is, I'm not sure that the

1:11.9

grand jury is operating anymore in that in the Trump matter.

1:16.0

It's a big kind of a mystery at the moment.

1:18.0

There's been no activity from them and so one of the questions people have raised to me is

1:21.6

who's judge if Judge Boisburg does that analysis,

1:24.7

there's no one to give it to, so there may not be anyone

1:27.4

to give it to, so can he even do it?

1:29.6

Is this thing just sort of sit, you know, dead and moot at this point or is there actually

1:34.3

going to be some further development. I'm Benjamin Wettis. I'm Roger

1:39.0

Parlov. I'm Anna Bauer. And this is the Law Fair Podcast, December 2nd, 2003.

1:47.0

You know, it's another episode of Trump Trials and Tribulations.

1:52.0

We had special guest Kyle Cheney of political. We had

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