Trump’s Trials and Tribulations: A Surprise Plea in Fulton County
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🗓️ 21 October 2023
⏱️ 104 minutes
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Summary
It's another episode of “Trump’s Trials and Tribulations,” our weekly YouTube livestream conducted on Zoom for Lawfare Material Supporters. It was a breaking news day on Thursday: Sidney Powell, the Kraken lawyer, pled guilty in a plea deal in Fulton County Superior Court, one day before she and Ken Chesebro were going to trial.
To unpack it all, Lawfare Editor-in-Chief Benjamin Wittes sat down with Lawfare Senior Editors Roger Parloff and Quinta Jurecic, Lawfare Legal Fellow Anna Bower, and Lawfare Associate Editor Hyemin Han. They talked about the plea, about what it means for Ken Chesebro and the trial for which jury selection was set to start on Friday, about what happened this week in Tanya Chutkan's courtroom where a gag order was imposed on Donald Trump, and about the defense motion to dismiss on presidential immunity grounds in that courtroom and an article about it by Quinta Jurecic.
On Oct. 20. Lawfare Senior Editor Scott Anderson sat down with Lawfare Legal Fellow and Courts Correspondent for a special edition of "Trump's Trials and Tribulations" to talk about Kenneth Chesebro's surprise guilty plea. This discussion is added to the end of the Thursday conversation
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| 0:00.0 | The following podcast contains advertising to access an ad-free version of the LawFair |
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| 0:25.6 | no bull, and the aftermath. |
| 0:28.6 | Hey there folks, LawFair, senior editor, Scott R. Anderson here with a quick explanatory |
| 0:36.4 | note for you. You are listening to the audio of our weekly Trump trials and tribulations discussions |
| 0:42.7 | as a live online discussion. We have Thursday at 4 p.m. Eastern time online with patreon supporters |
| 0:48.5 | and with observers on YouTube that we hope you are able to join. It's a great conversation |
| 0:53.2 | this week, but we had breaking news come in Friday morning, one of the co-defendants |
| 0:58.6 | in the film county trial on one of the suspected unindicted co-conspirators in the federal |
| 1:03.3 | January 6 trial Kenneth Chesbro pled guilty in the Georgia trial this morning. We have |
| 1:08.4 | details on that from our trial correspondent Anna Bauer. I talked about what went down |
| 1:13.4 | with her in a separate conversation that we're going to edit the audio in at the end of |
| 1:18.1 | this conversation from Thursday's Trump trial and tribulation session. The first conversation |
| 1:23.6 | you're going to hear took place on Thursday before we knew Chesbro pled out. You will then |
| 1:27.4 | hear a conversation between me and Anna about that Chesbro plea. Hope you enjoy both conversations. |
| 1:34.2 | Thank you for tuning in. |
| 1:38.2 | You know, knowing that Chesbro's team had rejected a plea offer previously, I don't know, |
| 1:49.9 | but I really got to think that there's probably some discussions going on today with their |
| 1:57.4 | client about what their next move is because now that Sydney Powell has pleaded, like |
| 2:04.2 | Ben said, no one wants to be the last person to plea. And it's better to get in, you know, |
| 2:11.9 | now while you can before the deals start to get a little bit less sweet. |
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