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The NPR Politics Podcast

Trump's TikTok Trepidation Troubles Teens

The NPR Politics Podcast

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Politics, Daily News, News

4.524.9K Ratings

🗓️ 4 August 2020

⏱️ 14 minutes

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Summary

President Trump said Monday that TikTok will close Sept. 15 unless it's bought by an American company. Microsoft is in discussions with TikTok parent company ByteDance over a possible purchase. It is the latest example of U.S. tensions with China manifesting as fights over technology.

This episode: campaign correspondent Asma Khalid, White House correspondent Franco Ordoñez, and technology reporter Bobby Allyn.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hi NPR, this is Holly from Olympia, Washington, where I am sitting outside my local seafood shop

0:06.8

that is so small it can only fit three customers at a time, but we're in the Pacific Northwest,

0:12.5

so there's a line around the building, even on a weekday. This podcast was recorded at

0:19.6

2.40 pm on Tuesday, August 4th. Things may have changed by the time you hear it. All right,

0:26.8

enjoy the show. So my question is, is that three people with social distancing or without social?

0:37.1

Well hey there, it's the NPR Politics podcast, I'm Asma Khalid, I cover the presidential campaign.

0:41.8

I'm Franco Ordonia as I cover the White House. And today we've got a special guest on the show,

0:46.6

NPR Tech Reporter Bobby Allen is joining us from San Francisco. Hey Bobby. Hey everyone.

0:51.8

And so Bobby, we wanted George expertise on the show because we're going to talk about

0:55.4

TikTok today and all the political controversy around this app. And we need your help because I will

1:01.3

admit I myself am not a frequent TikTok user, in part because I admit I'm kind of paranoid about

1:07.1

a lot of these national security concerns that we've heard that we're going to talk about later

1:10.2

in the show. But Franco, do you use TikTok? You know, it's kind of similar to you. I don't have it

1:16.0

on my phone, but I am familiar with it and I confess I've kind of gotten sucked into the viral

1:21.5

videos that sometimes end up on other apps. All right. So if you are not a big consumer of TikTok,

1:28.9

Bobby, why don't you explain what the app is? Sure. So TikTok is this video sharing app where

1:36.9

you can record yourself doing viral dance challenges to a Beyonce song or you could impersonate

1:44.0

the president. There's this woman Sarah Cooper who's become a viral sensation by just

1:48.8

basically melting the words of the president and sharing that. And what's really distinctive about

1:57.2

TikTok is the algorithm allows just an average Joe to take a video and have it be seen by like

2:03.2

tens of millions of people overnight. The way the algorithm works is you can go from having like

2:08.0

10 followers to like 50,000 snap. So because it has that potential, it really has become this,

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