Today we're going to talk about Trump's aggressive posture on Greenland, why it's a distraction,

and yet why it's still worth talking about. And I've got a big episode this week with four

interviews. I speak with Kara Swisher about whether Tesla can ever recover and why Elon would

torch his reputation when his consumer base is liberals. National security expert Ned Price and

Congressman Jim Himes talk about Signalgate,

and Ezra Klein talks about his new book abundance and what the Democrats can learn from it.

I'm Brian Tyler Cohen, and you're listening to No Lie.

So there is a non-zero chance that the Greenland threats are a distraction,

but I want to talk about it anyway, and there's a very specific reason why, which I'll get to shortly. But first, I just want to lay out what we're seeing as it relates to Greenland.

J.D. and his wife, Usha Vance, have, I guess, been deputized to serve as the colonizer ambassadors,

and so they've both been to the country. Usha was there just this past week for what the White House was calling a cultural visit.

And yet her advanced team, I guess, was apparently going door to door in Greenlands looking for anyone to host her, and literally no one would.

And so Usha's cultural visit was cut short because, I don't know, apparently Greenlanders

didn't want to make nice with a lady who wants to colonize them.

And that alone was bad and embarrassing, but not quite as embarrassing as this.

The president said today that we have to have Greenland.

By being here today, are you also conveying that message that the U.S. is very serious

in its desire to acquire Greenland?

Well, the president said we have to have Greenland, and I think that we do have to be more

serious about the security of Greenland. We can't just ignore this place. We can't just ignore

the president's desires. Ah, right. We can't ignore the president's desires. Of course, President Trump desires

Greenland. And so if Daddy Trump wants it, then Daddy Trump gets it. And so what? Is Vance prepared

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